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Jemas777

May 15, 2012 11:35 am GMT
gobuffalo30 posted...
DICE is not EA. That doesn't even make any sense. They are OWNED by EA

That's the best thing I read all day. Let's put it this way, since DICE is owned by EA, EA says jump and DICE has to ask "how high?". How is DICE owned by EA but they're not EA?

I think the love obsession of DICE in the community is toxic, it's clear by the game that DICE has scrapped together and still feels like a beta in some ways (after 3 years of development + 6 months after release?). Hell, with how the community acted through the beta, it practically ruined the game for me before it was even released. I only picked it up because I didn't want to get MW3 because I was smart enough to know exactly how it was going to be and I wanted a FPS, which Amazon had a good deal.

I don't think anyone has an love obsession with DICE anymore than you have a pure hate for it. Your arguments are short sighted and self serving. The game is far from perfect, and anyone could nit pick at any part of it. It could be: Less glitch y, have better graphics, more destruction, more realism, ect. But if you look at the big picture, it's actually pretty good(Better than CoD, to me). It offers a different experience than other games, with the players having more control. The experience(game play) is better than the release before it, and is still progressing(just like any other series). Just because it doesn't incorporate what you think it should(or shouldn't) doesn't make it a bad game. Those differences may be what other players like(much to your dismay). It doesn't make them wrong, it makes them people.
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CyCoCrip

May 15, 2012 11:50 am GMT
i actually stopped playing because of the MAV elevator glitch that was NEVER patched, the under OP METRO MAP GLITCHES that arent fixed (there were 6 total ways under the map, they only patched 3), and the fact that russian jets always do better than the F18's when ever i fly. its annoying. and for some reason, FLARES DONT WORK ANYMORE.
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Jemas777

May 15, 2012 11:55 am GMT
CyCoCrip posted...
i actually stopped playing because of the MAV elevator glitch that was NEVER patched, the under OP METRO MAP GLITCHES that arent fixed (there were 6 total ways under the map, they only patched 3), and the fact that russian jets always do better than the F18's when ever i fly. its annoying. and for some reason, FLARES DONT WORK ANYMORE.

I haven't seen a MAV used as an elevator since the patch. I Don't fly the jet. Anyone? Flares work. People have learned how to beat them, you need to learn to counter what they learned.
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Jemas777

May 15, 2012 12:41 pm GMT
gobuffalo30 posted...
Suppression is fine, maps are great for the most part, and balance is good. I'm talking about all of the real problems not the "I don't like this so it must be bad" problems. The things you can't fix by just getting the **** over it.

Suppression is fine? Maps are great? Balance is good? What game are you playing because it surely isn't BF3. I think it's time for you to get over your obsession with DICE, stop putting the game on some magical pedastal, and look at the problems that truly make this game average at best.

Also, after listening to the podcast(with Alan Kertz, at the 7:40 mark), they do not say they are getting rid of suppression. They say that it is a work in progress, and they will address it in a future patch. What they want to fix is "Accidental" suppression, they are going to reduce the area around the player that will affected. They are going to reduce the time that a player is affected once he is out of the line of fire. Also, they are going to adjust it for close combat. But, they did point out that if there is a high ping on the server, they effects last longer and they can not control that. But he specifically said they would NOT change how suppression affected the players. Also, that they had it turned up more more during testing and reduced it for the last patch. So it seems suppression is here to stay. They are just going to tweek it a bit.
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sknmak

May 15, 2012 1:40 pm GMT
From: specialkid8 | #117
DICE is not EA. That doesn't even make any sense. They are OWNED by EA. Is a Walmart employee a greedy industrialist corporation? Also you don't have to pay **** to play servers. Stop saying that.

EA Digital Illusions Creative Entertainment AB (EA DICE, or just DICE) is a Swedish video game developer, wholly owned by Electronic Arts, best known for the Battlefield video game series and Mirror's Edge.

EA's acquisition

In November 2004, Electronic Arts announced their intent to purchase all outstanding shares in Digital Illusions CE at a price of SEK 61 per share. The board of directors of Digital Illusions CE recommended that the company's shareholders accept the offer. Electronic Arts owned 62% of Digital Illusions CE on March 31, 2005.

On October 2, 2006, EA completed the acquisition for SEK 67.75 per share for 2.6 million shares, for a total of SEK 175.5 million. Digital Illusions CE was renamed EA Digital Illusions CE,[6] and CEO Patrick Söderlund became an EA Studio General Manager.[7] DICE Canada, which at the time was being run by DICE co-founder Fredrik Liliegren, was closed down immediately upon acquisition.[8]

LMAO.......do you get what you stated. I added a little info above to help you even more. Get through your noggin kiddo. EA has taken over DICE and can remove, move or add developers from other dev teams as they please. DICE has been bought out. What EA says goes. Get used to it. That's from Wikipedia. I remember a lot of talk about this back around 2005. You can google to learn more. EA is simply money hungry and want to get the CoD money and will ruin any popular series to get every penny from it. OH WAIT DICE is not EA.
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anvilone

May 15, 2012 2:40 pm GMT
gobuffalo30 posted...
I think the love obsession of DICE in the community is toxic, it's clear by the game that DICE has scrapped together and still feels like a beta in some ways (after 3 years of development + 6 months after release?). Hell, with how the community acted through the beta, it practically ruined the game for me before it was even released. I only picked it up because I didn't want to get MW3 because I was smart enough to know exactly how it was going to be and I wanted a FPS, which Amazon had a good deal.

So...you don't like this game, haven't ever liked it, yet you bought it and are still playing it and complaining about it six months after launch. Maybe instead of trying to rationalize what is wrong with other people who like a game that you clearly hate, you should just play a different game. Why do you torture yourself like this?
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specialkid8

May 15, 2012 3:51 pm GMT
gobuffalo30 posted...
DICE is not EA. That doesn't even make any sense. They are OWNED by EA

That's the best thing I read all day. Let's put it this way, since DICE is owned by EA, EA says jump and DICE has to ask "how high?". How is DICE owned by EA but they're not EA?

Um, yeah. That's pretty much how that works. DICE is its own company. It is owned by EA. DICE is a developer that makes games. EA is a publisher which publishes games. DICE is owned by EA and if they don't do what EA wants they basically don't get to make a game. I don't see how you don't understand the difference between ownership and being. I assume you own a car. Is that car you? Are you a car? Are you a Transformer?

sknmak posted...

EA has taken over DICE and can remove, move or add developers from other dev teams as they please. DICE has been bought out. What EA says goes. Get used to it. EA is simply money hungry and want to get the CoD money and will ruin any popular series to get every penny from it. OH WAIT DICE is not EA.

Um, that's exactly what I said. Do neither of you understand the concept of ownership or should I use more silly analogies?

All the trash talking and was done by EA. Whenever they questioned actually developers from DICE about it they didn't comment. They just said they wanted to make the best Battlefield game they could. All of the changes to the game to make it appeal to COD players were put in the game per request of EA. If DICE didn't implement said features they would not get the money to make the game. Anything that is not an actual glitch in the game can all be blamed squarely on EA. They are separate entities. If you put a cat in a box it is still a cat. It does not become the box. It is also alive and dead but that's beside the point.
anvilone

May 15, 2012 4:16 pm GMT
Jemas777 posted...
On suppression: I recently saw a poll (Battlefield 3 stats?) that I was able to vote in. 55% of the people likes suppression the was it is. I wish i could find it now, it was a few days back(Friday) and I can't find it now. I DO think it needs to be tweaked.

The poll is at the bottom of the page on Battlelog.

As of this posting, the stats are as follows:
I like it in every way - 38%
Like it but too much ATM - 35%
Dont like,but open to tweaks - 14%
Don't like it at all - 13%

Total votes: 38547
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Clutch41007

May 15, 2012 6:36 pm GMT
specialkid8 posted...
gobuffalo30 posted...
DICE is not EA. That doesn't even make any sense. They are OWNED by EA

That's the best thing I read all day. Let's put it this way, since DICE is owned by EA, EA says jump and DICE has to ask "how high?". How is DICE owned by EA but they're not EA?

Um, yeah. That's pretty much how that works. DICE is its own company. It is owned by EA. DICE is a developer that makes games. EA is a publisher which publishes games. DICE is owned by EA and if they don't do what EA wants they basically don't get to make a game. I don't see how you don't understand the difference between ownership and being. I assume you own a car. Is that car you? Are you a car? Are you a Transformer?

sknmak posted...

EA has taken over DICE and can remove, move or add developers from other dev teams as they please. DICE has been bought out. What EA says goes. Get used to it. EA is simply money hungry and want to get the CoD money and will ruin any popular series to get every penny from it. OH WAIT DICE is not EA.

Um, that's exactly what I said. Do neither of you understand the concept of ownership or should I use more silly analogies?

All the trash talking and was done by EA. Whenever they questioned actually developers from DICE about it they didn't comment. They just said they wanted to make the best Battlefield game they could. All of the changes to the game to make it appeal to COD players were put in the game per request of EA. If DICE didn't implement said features they would not get the money to make the game. Anything that is not an actual glitch in the game can all be blamed squarely on EA. They are separate entities. If you put a cat in a box it is still a cat. It does not become the box. It is also alive and dead but that's beside the point.

I read this post. Four times. Each and every time, there was about a five-second span in which my brain attempted to comprehend, then blue-screened and immediately restarted. You've managed to spurt out a point you wanted to make and then in the sentence(s) immediately afterward, contradicted yourself impressively. Your analogies, should they ever make it to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, will be listed as prime examples supporting the definition of nonsensical.

I could post the video or picture of the principal from Billy Madison, but to be perfectly honest, I believe that if he had to read what could only be described as your "word salads", he wouldn't even opt to say anything that could be construed as meme-worthy, so vast and encompassing his utter confusion would be.
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specialkid8

May 15, 2012 7:05 pm GMT
Where exactly did I contradict myself? Nowhere in your jumble of words did you try to actually make any point.
Clutch41007

May 15, 2012 10:52 pm GMT
specialkid8 posted...
Where exactly did I contradict myself? Nowhere in your jumble of words did you try to actually make any point.

One is not their own company if they have to rely on the parent to get stuff done. You say that DICE is their own company, yet a half-second Google search and some simple reading comprehension would reveal this not to be the case.

They are a subsidiary. They're about as independent as Lexus is to Toyota. There's your contradiction. Fully independent companies don't give a **** about what another company tells them to do. Which means that if DICE were such, they could just tell EA to get bent and not have a care in the world.

So which is it? Independent and doing their own thing, or at the whim and mercy of their investor?
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specialkid8

May 16, 2012 4:15 am GMT
I never said they were independent but they are their own company as in DICE is a company. It is owned by EA. These derps are going on about how EA and DICE are the same company making the same decisions together because they are the same identity. They are two different companies; one owned by the other. I never said they were independent.
gobuffalo30

May 16, 2012 6:06 am GMT
They're their own company in name only. If you work company A and company B buys company A then you work for company B even though you may still be under company A's name. That's how business work, it happens all the time in banking. One example is Esurance, they still have their name but they're owned by Progressive I think now.
gobuffalo30

May 16, 2012 6:16 am GMT
So...you don't like this game, haven't ever liked it, yet you bought it and are still playing it and complaining about it six months after launch. Maybe instead of trying to rationalize what is wrong with other people who like a game that you clearly hate, you should just play a different game. Why do you torture yourself like this?

Great assumptions. And there's some flaws in that logic too.
ippy21

May 16, 2012 9:01 am GMT
Haven't played for a week and I feel great.
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anvilone

May 16, 2012 10:28 am GMT
gobuffalo30 posted...
So...you don't like this game, haven't ever liked it, yet you bought it and are still playing it and complaining about it six months after launch. Maybe instead of trying to rationalize what is wrong with other people who like a game that you clearly hate, you should just play a different game. Why do you torture yourself like this?

Great assumptions. And there's some flaws in that logic too.

Where? That's the impression I got from reading your other posts. If you do like the game, it's really hard to tell.
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specialkid8

May 16, 2012 10:53 am GMT
^He's been posting the same message over and over since before launch. He just has new ammo as of late. Best to just let it go.
Pyrogoat

May 16, 2012 11:02 am GMT
This move is pretty unforgivable in my opinion.

Pure greed, plain and simple. They're making players pay rental fees for servers. It's actually even more greedy than Activision's decision not to have dedicated servers. I never thought that EA would be able to top Activision in that category.

Battlefield 4 will be a pass for me.
Jemas777

May 16, 2012 11:03 am GMT
Actually, I have noticed that if you present a compelling argument it usually stops. But then picks up as some other non-argument . Kinda like it's doing now...

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sknmak

May 16, 2012 8:39 pm GMT
From: Pyrogoat | #138
This move is pretty unforgivable in my opinion.

Pure greed, plain and simple. They're making players pay rental fees for servers. It's actually even more greedy than Activision's decision not to have dedicated servers. I never thought that EA would be able to top Activision in that category.

Battlefield 4 will be a pass for me.

How about Bad Company 3 or another BF spin off title if they make one? I'm pretty much done with the series. I know EA will run it in the ground eventually. Not a good strategy if

From: Jemas777 | #139
Actually, I have noticed that if you present a compelling argument it usually stops. But then picks up as some other non-argument . Kinda like it's doing now..

It's not really an argument. It's just amazing how the new school kids look pass the most basic things that should be free.
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