EU Massive Petition Vs.Blizzard Service
- May 31, 2012 11:31 am GMT
If you are an EU player and are fed with a launch that is probably one of the worst launches ever visit this:
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/diablo3complaint
11k signatures and rising. This deserves some attention from GameSpot too: Korean FTC authorities raided Blizzard offices due to the massive number of complains in Korea, and EU players are rising up as well. The last 2 days of failed logins are making sure EU is joining the bandwagon.
Make no mistake: in the viral marketing age, numbers DO make a difference.
Blizzard should be held accountable for the incompetent service that is being provided.
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- May 31, 2012 4:17 pm GMT
Gamespot actualy covering something that matters? Nah. If Blizzard asks gamespot to sit and rollover they would.
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- May 31, 2012 5:37 pm GMT
Yeah numbers do make a difference, which is why when 6.3 million people are playing, 11,000 is nothing. MAYBE enough to cover server costs for a week, if that.
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- Jun 1, 2012 4:25 am GMT
[QUOTE="MegaMatt91"]
Yeah numbers do make a difference, which is why when 6.3 million people are playing, 11,000 is nothing. MAYBE enough to cover server costs for a week, if that.
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Well, it's more like +15.000 now. Enough to initiate some new UE law?
Nvm, I didn't complain, seen it with a guest pass(go the hole net errors). I didn't got the game in the first place and I don't intend to get it any time soon. That's the way I vote, no money for blizzard.
What's the point of giving Blizzard ~76 $ (cause that's what it costs in euro) and then make some pettion they won't care any way.
On the digital purchase I haven't seen anything about been online all the time or storing the information about you characters on their servers. Anyone had a look at the retrail box?
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- Jun 1, 2012 11:05 am GMT[QUOTE="MegaMatt91"]
Yeah numbers do make a difference, which is why when 6.3 million people are playing, 11,000 is nothing. MAYBE enough to cover server costs for a week, if that.
[/QUOTE] 1. Always question the numbers marketing people give. 2. Not all will be direct sales, but shipped boxes in addition to the digital sales. 3. Even smaller numbers is enough to cause investors to worry and stock prices to go down. EA felt it with Mass Effect 3 and its ending. Something like this has never really happened to Blizzard and im sure they are feeling the impact.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jun 1, 2012 3:13 pm GMT
[QUOTE="Shiftfallout"] 1. Always question the numbers marketing people give. 2. Not all will be direct sales, but shipped boxes in addition to the digital sales. 3. Even smaller numbers is enough to cause investors to worry and stock prices to go down. EA felt it with Mass Effect 3 and its ending. Something like this has never really happened to Blizzard and im sure they are feeling the impact.[/QUOTE]
I've never seen any analyst correlate EA price drops due to Mass Effect 3's ending. I've seen it due to a CFO leaving the company, BF3 performing significantly beneath expectations and EA being voted worst company in America by The Consummerist. I've only seen forum dwellers claiming the stock prices are related the Mass Effect 3's ending or SWTOR "underperforming" (despite its record sales).
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- Jun 1, 2012 3:25 pm GMT
[QUOTE="Megotaku77"]
[QUOTE="Shiftfallout"] 1. Always question the numbers marketing people give. 2. Not all will be direct sales, but shipped boxes in addition to the digital sales. 3. Even smaller numbers is enough to cause investors to worry and stock prices to go down. EA felt it with Mass Effect 3 and its ending. Something like this has never really happened to Blizzard and im sure they are feeling the impact.[/QUOTE]
I've never seen any analyst correlate EA price drops due to Mass Effect 3's ending. I've seen it due to a CFO leaving the company, BF3 performing significantly beneath expectations and EA being voted worst company in America by The Consummerist. I've only seen forum dwellers claiming the stock prices are related the Mass Effect 3's ending or SWTOR "underperforming" (despite its record sales).
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Did you bother trying to look it up and verify the side effect? Not saying you have to but it helps. Rather it was the negative press which impacted EA, and the source of the negative press was the reaction from consumers over the ending as well as game features which were advertised as part of the gameplay experience. I believe even the FCC started to get involved at one point and there was mention of a class action lawsuit as well. I know its crazy, im not advocating either for or against such reactions but I am merely here to point out they exist and have had a significant impact.
You could look elsewhere than on forums if you see only forum goers talk about certain subject matter. Im not a huge forum lurker myself, only came here a few days ago to talk about Diablo 3 with this community, which in retrospect might not have been the wisest thing...in part because I assumed it has grown up a bit.
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- Jun 1, 2012 3:30 pm GMTIn addition to my above post, I would like to point out that in South Korea, they were getting so many complaints that the FTC over there got involved and it ended up with a federal raid of Blizzard's South Korean headquarters. I honestly dont think any blizzard game has seen this many demands for refunds (internationally) in their entire lifespan. To some this is inconvenient information, but regardless it exist. The game industry is still very young, it died once and then came back... once a niche now a mainstream form of entertainment. The video game industry brings in more annual revenue than the film, tv and music industries combined (for the primary market). Its not just all fun and games anymore, its cut throat business...which is probably what will kill the industry again if it ever happens.
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- Jun 2, 2012 2:32 pm GMT
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[QUOTE="Raizeen"]Gamespot actualy covering something that matters? Nah. If Blizzard asks gamespot to sit and rollover they would.
[/QUOTE] Then why you insist on coming back to gamespot?- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jun 2, 2012 2:34 pm GMT
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- System : Run faster than yours
- RAM : More than yours
- Graphics: Better than yours
- D. Drive : More rpm than yours
- H. Disk : Larger than yours
- Epeen : 30 times yours
- Am I better than you: Yes
- This signature sums up everyone else's: Yes.
[QUOTE="tar1901"][QUOTE="MegaMatt91"]
Yeah numbers do make a difference, which is why when 6.3 million people are playing, 11,000 is nothing. MAYBE enough to cover server costs for a week, if that.
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Well, it's more like +15.000 now. Enough to initiate some new UE law?
Nvm, I didn't complain, seen it with a guest pass(go the hole net errors). I didn't got the game in the first place and I don't intend to get it any time soon. That's the way I vote, no money for blizzard.
What's the point of giving Blizzard ~76 $ (cause that's what it costs in euro) and then make some pettion they won't care any way.
On the digital purchase I haven't seen anything about been online all the time or storing the information about you characters on their servers. Anyone had a look at the retrail box?
[/QUOTE] Unless you have been living under a rock for the last year, this was clear from the get go. You can't blame everyone when you have not noticed the moon in the sky your entire life and then blame the government not telling you about it.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jun 2, 2012 2:36 pm GMT
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- System : Run faster than yours
- RAM : More than yours
- Graphics: Better than yours
- D. Drive : More rpm than yours
- H. Disk : Larger than yours
- Epeen : 30 times yours
- Am I better than you: Yes
- This signature sums up everyone else's: Yes.
[QUOTE="Shiftfallout"][QUOTE="MegaMatt91"]Yeah numbers do make a difference, which is why when 6.3 million people are playing, 11,000 is nothing. MAYBE enough to cover server costs for a week, if that.
[/QUOTE] 1. Always question the numbers marketing people give. 2. Not all will be direct sales, but shipped boxes in addition to the digital sales. 3. Even smaller numbers is enough to cause investors to worry and stock prices to go down. EA felt it with Mass Effect 3 and its ending. Something like this has never really happened to Blizzard and im sure they are feeling the impact.[/QUOTE] There is such a thing as lying to share holders will get you prison time.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jun 2, 2012 2:42 pm GMT
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- System : Run faster than yours
- RAM : More than yours
- Graphics: Better than yours
- D. Drive : More rpm than yours
- H. Disk : Larger than yours
- Epeen : 30 times yours
- Am I better than you: Yes
- This signature sums up everyone else's: Yes.
[QUOTE="Soulaufein"]If you are an EU player and are fed with a launch that is probably one of the worst launches ever visit this:
http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/diablo3complaint
11k signatures and rising. This deserves some attention from GameSpot too: Korean FTC authorities raided Blizzard offices due to the massive number of complains in Korea, and EU players are rising up as well. The last 2 days of failed logins are making sure EU is joining the bandwagon.
Make no mistake: in the viral marketing age, numbers DO make a difference.
Blizzard should be held accountable for the incompetent service that is being provided.
[/QUOTE] You know it is an online only game and yet you bought it. Now you are complaining about this known fact? May be you should make a petition against MacDonald for making you fat even though you chose to buy cheese burgers there day after day. Better yet, make a petition against yourself for the lack of personal responsibility and self-control!- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jun 3, 2012 5:39 am GMT
[QUOTE="Soulaufein"]
You know it is an online only game and yet you bought it. Now you are complaining about this known fact? May be you should make a petition against MacDonald for making you fat even though you chose to buy cheese burgers there day after day. Better yet, make a petition against yourself for the lack of personal responsibility and self-control! [/QUOTE]
Petition against oneself? Please, don't be silly.
What's so wrong about people demanding what they paid for? You sound like that is something akin to worshipping the devil in a christian temple!
What's your point anyway?
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- Jun 9, 2012 1:37 pm GMT
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- System : Run faster than yours
- RAM : More than yours
- Graphics: Better than yours
- D. Drive : More rpm than yours
- H. Disk : Larger than yours
- Epeen : 30 times yours
- Am I better than you: Yes
- This signature sums up everyone else's: Yes.
[QUOTE="nsfn"][QUOTE="Soulaufein"]
You know it is an online only game and yet you bought it. Now you are complaining about this known fact? May be you should make a petition against MacDonald for making you fat even though you chose to buy cheese burgers there day after day. Better yet, make a petition against yourself for the lack of personal responsibility and self-control! [/QUOTE]
Petition against oneself? Please, don't be silly.
What's so wrong about people demanding what they paid for? You sound like that is something akin to worshipping the devil in a christian temple!
What's your point anyway?
[/QUOTE] My point is in the first sentence of my post which you quoted.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jun 10, 2012 4:50 am GMT
Ok then. Good luck with that.
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- Jun 13, 2012 12:57 am GMT
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Society is a made-up formula of what we are supposed to be, kept alive by those who believe in it...I laugh in the ugly face of society, with all its fabricated dimensions.
Now, if only we could get the people this excited about overruling Citizens United in the US.
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- Jun 13, 2012 1:32 pm GMT
[QUOTE="paperwolf"]
Now, if only we could get the people this excited about overruling Citizens United in the US.
But don't get me wrong I love the enthusiasm I see here.[/QUOTE]
Buy my politicians so they can undo decades of social progress and reduce my quality of life and the quality of life of those I know and care about? Meh.
Mess with my Mass Effect 3 ending or include controversial DRM in a video game? RAGE!!! RAGE!!!! BOYCOTT!!!! BURN THIS MOTHER DOWN!!!!11!1
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- Jun 14, 2012 4:30 am GMT
I don't understand why people are so riled up about this, like you are all being taken advantage of somehow.
If you are that pissed then don't buy blizzard products, if enough people feel the same then the problem resolves itself.
But no, you HAVE to play it and then go internet crybaby crazy when it doesn't work exactly the way it should right out of the gate.
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- Jun 14, 2012 10:12 am GMT
[QUOTE="Kintaro_Oe_25"]
I don't understand why people are so riled up about this, like you are all being taken advantage of somehow.
If you are that pissed then don't buy blizzard products, if enough people feel the same then the problem resolves itself.
But no, you HAVE to play it and then go internet crybaby crazy when it doesn't work exactly the way it should right out of the gate.
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I don't care personally, but Diablo 3 is already a record breaking success. There are a lot of anti-player things going on with this always-online DRM that's very concerning since the message has now been sent to the rest of the gaming industry that this kind of DRM is acceptable. So now if you're a gamer in your college dorm with a shoddy internet connection all your favorite franchises in th future might be always online and you're shut down as a gamer. There are a lot of other legal ramifications to the always-online DRM and being in the minority means these legal problems can become more widespread if it spreads to other games (and it likely will) and that I can certainly understand being angry about.
A weak analogy is that of Yahtzee over and Zero Punctuation. He hates cover-based shooters, but every time one comes out its outrageously successful so more and more games come out with cover based shooting and his favorite franchises are now excluding him more and more. You really don't see why that's frustrating?
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- Jun 14, 2012 3:11 pm GMT
[QUOTE="Megotaku77"]
[QUOTE="Kintaro_Oe_25"]
I don't understand why people are so riled up about this, like you are all being taken advantage of somehow.
If you are that pissed then don't buy blizzard products, if enough people feel the same then the problem resolves itself.
But no, you HAVE to play it and then go internet crybaby crazy when it doesn't work exactly the way it should right out of the gate.
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I don't care personally, but Diablo 3 is already a record breaking success. There are a lot of anti-player things going on with this always-online DRM that's very concerning since the message has now been sent to the rest of the gaming industry that this kind of DRM is acceptable. So now if you're a gamer in your college dorm with a shoddy internet connection all your favorite franchises in th future might be always online and you're shut down as a gamer. There are a lot of other legal ramifications to the always-online DRM and being in the minority means these legal problems can become more widespread if it spreads to other games (and it likely will) and that I can certainly understand being angry about.
A weak analogy is that of Yahtzee over and Zero Punctuation. He hates cover-based shooters, but every time one comes out its outrageously successful so more and more games come out with cover based shooting and his favorite franchises are now excluding him more and more. You really don't see why that's frustrating?
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I can see why it might be frustating in the same way that I couldn't play Everquest as much as I wanted to because I had dial up at the time. Always online games (and with it, DRM) is nothing new, as I'm sure you are well aware. Diablo 3 is just another one, and as the internet becomes faster, cheaper and even more abundant, more always online games will continue sprout out.
That is what I see, not a conspiracy by big game companies to keep us down. Anti-gamer? I disagree. It is pro-money make with minor collateral damage.
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