Jim Sterling: you should be mad at always online
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- May 29, 2012 3:25 pm GMTHawk7389 posted...
Lord Bacon posted...
dsvw56 posted...
Yeah you should be mad. At yourself. If you are that against always being online, you should not have purchased it. Your money spent speaks way louder than any amount of your message board QQing ever will.
Another guy who actually knows what logic is.
It said that internet connection was required right on the box guys. You can't argue against terms that you legitimately accepted of your own free will. You can only complain about the online only requirement if you have not yet purchased because of it.
We aren't arguing the terms of being online, we are online now. Blizzard of course isn't online.....again. I don't think its that unreasonable to expect the game to work without the servers going to down for hours at a time on almost a daily basis.
It hasn't even been remotely near a daily basis except for the auction house which has its own separate servers. Also, notice how when you download updates for your PC you generally have to restart? Yeah, thats how it works on servers too. Except the fixes they apply are a lot more than just an automated download.
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Taste the sandwich of my vengeance - May 29, 2012 3:26 pm GMTBtVSFan posted...
From: Slayn | #052
BtVSFan posted...From: Slayn | #035
Rights? WTF are you people even talking about? LOL Blizzard is taking away your rights, ok bud.... this is why I can't take you people seriously. You guys literally have no clue what you are talking about.
I don't work for Blizzard I just understand. Welcome to the real world? Blizzard wants to make more money. That is the purpose of a business ( generally speaking ). If they can 1. secure their product 2. expose more people to RMAH by making this online only, then why wouldn't they? People talk about "morals" and "ethics" haha you are just pulling that straight out of where the sun don't shine.
And why is everyone throwing around the word "entitled" do any of you know what it means? So what I get from this thread is that people who support Blizzard are entitled and people who are against DRM are entitled. I guess it is just a widespread problem?
Most of you have no clue how to make a solid arguement and it's pathetic. I am not mad, I am just bored. You know what I did while servers are down? I made a plate of nachos and watched south park. I had an iced tea from Starbucks. I hung out with an actual person. Then I trolled stupid users on gamefaqs who think they are "entitled" to use Diablo 3 as they see fit, without knowing what a gaming license is or even how to use the word entitled.
Do they like you to swallow? Or is it cool with them if you just spit?
Ah, I'm sorry. They just spray all over your face, then?
I'm not sure how this corporate whoring thing works, you see. How much did you make for selling your thoughts and opinions?
I'm kind of disappointed that as a Sage, you can't even make a single valid point. - May 29, 2012 3:28 pm GMTMestreRothGF posted...
Lord Bacon posted...
dsvw56 posted...
Yeah you should be mad. At yourself. If you are that against always being online, you should not have purchased it. Your money spent speaks way louder than any amount of your message board QQing ever will.
Another guy who actually knows what logic is.
It said that internet connection was required right on the box guys. You can't argue against terms that you legitimately accepted of your own free will. You can only complain about the online only requirement if you have not yet purchased because of it.
One thing is being required to be online to play the game.
The other is being unable to play the game so many times for so long. And this, sir, the box didn't say.
Every game that has to remain connected to a server will have to be taken down for maintenance. The box saying that an internet connection is required to play implies this. User ignorance is not Blizzard's problem.
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Taste the sandwich of my vengeance - May 29, 2012 3:29 pm GMTLord Bacon posted...
MestreRothGF posted...
Lord Bacon posted...
dsvw56 posted...
Yeah you should be mad. At yourself. If you are that against always being online, you should not have purchased it. Your money spent speaks way louder than any amount of your message board QQing ever will.
Another guy who actually knows what logic is.
It said that internet connection was required right on the box guys. You can't argue against terms that you legitimately accepted of your own free will. You can only complain about the online only requirement if you have not yet purchased because of it.
One thing is being required to be online to play the game.
The other is being unable to play the game so many times for so long. And this, sir, the box didn't say.
Every game that has to remain connected to a server will have to be taken down for maintenance. The box saying that an internet connection is required to play implies this. User ignorance is not Blizzard's problem.
Neither are server side hacks it seems.
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"Wait till PVP comes. Imagine your solo build you love being completely made useless because Bashiok's kid lost in PvP." - May 29, 2012 3:29 pm GMTSlayn posted...
BtVSFan posted...
From: Slayn | #052
BtVSFan posted...From: Slayn | #035
Rights? WTF are you people even talking about? LOL Blizzard is taking away your rights, ok bud.... this is why I can't take you people seriously. You guys literally have no clue what you are talking about.
I don't work for Blizzard I just understand. Welcome to the real world? Blizzard wants to make more money. That is the purpose of a business ( generally speaking ). If they can 1. secure their product 2. expose more people to RMAH by making this online only, then why wouldn't they? People talk about "morals" and "ethics" haha you are just pulling that straight out of where the sun don't shine.
And why is everyone throwing around the word "entitled" do any of you know what it means? So what I get from this thread is that people who support Blizzard are entitled and people who are against DRM are entitled. I guess it is just a widespread problem?
Most of you have no clue how to make a solid arguement and it's pathetic. I am not mad, I am just bored. You know what I did while servers are down? I made a plate of nachos and watched south park. I had an iced tea from Starbucks. I hung out with an actual person. Then I trolled stupid users on gamefaqs who think they are "entitled" to use Diablo 3 as they see fit, without knowing what a gaming license is or even how to use the word entitled.
Do they like you to swallow? Or is it cool with them if you just spit?
Ah, I'm sorry. They just spray all over your face, then?
I'm not sure how this corporate whoring thing works, you see. How much did you make for selling your thoughts and opinions?
I'm kind of disappointed that as a Sage, you can't even make a single valid point.
Yeah, I love his logic. His idea of proving someone wrong is to provide no evidence whatsoever and just insult the person.
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Taste the sandwich of my vengeance - May 29, 2012 3:31 pm GMTllaW_Enots posted...
Lord Bacon posted...
MestreRothGF posted...
Lord Bacon posted...
dsvw56 posted...
Yeah you should be mad. At yourself. If you are that against always being online, you should not have purchased it. Your money spent speaks way louder than any amount of your message board QQing ever will.
Another guy who actually knows what logic is.
It said that internet connection was required right on the box guys. You can't argue against terms that you legitimately accepted of your own free will. You can only complain about the online only requirement if you have not yet purchased because of it.
One thing is being required to be online to play the game.
The other is being unable to play the game so many times for so long. And this, sir, the box didn't say.
Every game that has to remain connected to a server will have to be taken down for maintenance. The box saying that an internet connection is required to play implies this. User ignorance is not Blizzard's problem.
Neither are server side hacks it seems.
You mean those server side hacks of which there is no evidence of the existence of? You do realize that the hacker doing it would have evidence to prove as much right?
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Taste the sandwich of my vengeance - May 29, 2012 3:47 pm GMT"Blizzard took their personal problem and made it EVERYBODY's problem."
Because it is everybody's problem. When you have hacks/dupes/cheats coming onto BNet then you have a ruined economy, a worse outbreak than now because people do not even need to be logged into your account to make you drop items, and so on and so forth. D2 had this so bad that they had to make a Diablo Clone in order to battle the ridiculous number of duped SOJs there were floating around at the time.
DRM is a necessary evil. If you cannot see that, then you need eye drops.
With the immense popularity of Blizzard games as it was, coupled with how much more popular they've become due to WoW, you release D3 in a D2 format then you just released hacker haven.
D1/D2 have become absolute jokes now because of this. Go on, please, I would like for you to play D1 without seeing someone with broken stats come in and either kill every challenge in that game within seconds or kill you in a thought. Play D2 and see items that were traded/given disappear after logging from the game or having your screen annihilated by bots every minute, on the minute.
And I'm telling you this as someone that went in wanting to hate D3 and in some ways, still do. When you use, "BUT I PAID MONEY" then you can use that as a device for anything your beady little eyes wants. There comes a time where you as a player has to not be a complete and utter lemming and instead see that we're not living in 1993 and that the world of video-games has changed.
The sad part is, people will always ignore the truth in these posts because we do not have a video up on a website for half-assed journalism and pictures of excrement to toss around and still expect to be taken seriously.
Gamers these days are absolute, revolting jokers.
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A controversial poster in a sycophantic time! - May 29, 2012 3:51 pm GMTTheCurseX2 posted...
"Blizzard took their personal problem and made it EVERYBODY's problem."
Because it is everybody's problem. When you have hacks/dupes/cheats coming onto BNet then you have a ruined economy, a worse outbreak than now because people do not even need to be logged into your account to make you drop items, and so on and so forth. D2 had this so bad that they had to make a Diablo Clone in order to battle the ridiculous number of duped SOJs there were floating around at the time.
DRM is a necessary evil. If you cannot see that, then you need eye drops.
With the immense popularity of Blizzard games as it was, coupled with how much more popular they've become due to WoW, you release D3 in a D2 format then you just released hacker haven.
D1/D2 have become absolute jokes now because of this. Go on, please, I would like for you to play D1 without seeing someone with broken stats come in and either kill every challenge in that game within seconds or kill you in a thought. Play D2 and see items that were traded/given disappear after logging from the game or having your screen annihilated by bots every minute, on the minute.
And I'm telling you this as someone that went in wanting to hate D3 and in some ways, still do. When you use, "BUT I PAID MONEY" then you can use that as a device for anything your beady little eyes wants. There comes a time where you as a player has to not be a complete and utter lemming and instead see that we're not living in 1993 and that the world of video-games has changed.
The sad part is, people will always ignore the truth in these posts because we do not have a video up on a website for half-assed journalism and pictures of excrement to toss around and still expect to be taken seriously.
Gamers these days are absolute, revolting jokers.
'cause huge rants voicing your complaints about the people voicing their complaints is soooo much more useful and intelligent.
Oh... wait...
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Reem-"Crocop? Ahhh... he's easy."
Rousey-"That's right... I only gotta learn one button and I'll kill you." - May 29, 2012 3:52 pm GMTblame the new generation gamers who just don't give a crap, theyll take anything a company gives them
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PSN: Narc780 - May 29, 2012 3:55 pm GMTFrom: Mikaeel | #069
blame the new generation gamers who just don't give a crap, theyll take anything a company gives them
Don't put it like that, Mikaeel. Blizzard, and a lot of companies, are hurt by piracy every day. They have tried appealing to our sense of morals and ethics (see the "You wouldn't steal a bag" videos), but apparently a large number of gamers are morally bankrupt. If we want good companies like Blizzard to continue making fantastic products like Diablo 3, we need to make sure they get their fair share. If that means a bit of unobtrusive DRM, then we should be happy to accept that.
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http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2590/btvsfan01.png - Kazzus - May 29, 2012 3:55 pm GMTCanuckCowboy posted...
TheCurseX2 posted...
"Blizzard took their personal problem and made it EVERYBODY's problem."
Because it is everybody's problem. When you have hacks/dupes/cheats coming onto BNet then you have a ruined economy, a worse outbreak than now because people do not even need to be logged into your account to make you drop items, and so on and so forth. D2 had this so bad that they had to make a Diablo Clone in order to battle the ridiculous number of duped SOJs there were floating around at the time.
DRM is a necessary evil. If you cannot see that, then you need eye drops.
With the immense popularity of Blizzard games as it was, coupled with how much more popular they've become due to WoW, you release D3 in a D2 format then you just released hacker haven.
D1/D2 have become absolute jokes now because of this. Go on, please, I would like for you to play D1 without seeing someone with broken stats come in and either kill every challenge in that game within seconds or kill you in a thought. Play D2 and see items that were traded/given disappear after logging from the game or having your screen annihilated by bots every minute, on the minute.
And I'm telling you this as someone that went in wanting to hate D3 and in some ways, still do. When you use, "BUT I PAID MONEY" then you can use that as a device for anything your beady little eyes wants. There comes a time where you as a player has to not be a complete and utter lemming and instead see that we're not living in 1993 and that the world of video-games has changed.
The sad part is, people will always ignore the truth in these posts because we do not have a video up on a website for half-assed journalism and pictures of excrement to toss around and still expect to be taken seriously.
Gamers these days are absolute, revolting jokers.
'cause huge rants voicing your complaints about the people voicing their complaints is soooo much more useful and intelligent.
Oh... wait...
I like how you ignored the parts of his post that were actually factual and instead just focused on the parts that were his opinion. Nice selectivity you have with what you respond to.
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Taste the sandwich of my vengeance - May 29, 2012 4:00 pm GMTLord Bacon posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
TheCurseX2 posted...
"Blizzard took their personal problem and made it EVERYBODY's problem."
Because it is everybody's problem. When you have hacks/dupes/cheats coming onto BNet then you have a ruined economy, a worse outbreak than now because people do not even need to be logged into your account to make you drop items, and so on and so forth. D2 had this so bad that they had to make a Diablo Clone in order to battle the ridiculous number of duped SOJs there were floating around at the time.
DRM is a necessary evil. If you cannot see that, then you need eye drops.
With the immense popularity of Blizzard games as it was, coupled with how much more popular they've become due to WoW, you release D3 in a D2 format then you just released hacker haven.
D1/D2 have become absolute jokes now because of this. Go on, please, I would like for you to play D1 without seeing someone with broken stats come in and either kill every challenge in that game within seconds or kill you in a thought. Play D2 and see items that were traded/given disappear after logging from the game or having your screen annihilated by bots every minute, on the minute.
And I'm telling you this as someone that went in wanting to hate D3 and in some ways, still do. When you use, "BUT I PAID MONEY" then you can use that as a device for anything your beady little eyes wants. There comes a time where you as a player has to not be a complete and utter lemming and instead see that we're not living in 1993 and that the world of video-games has changed.
The sad part is, people will always ignore the truth in these posts because we do not have a video up on a website for half-assed journalism and pictures of excrement to toss around and still expect to be taken seriously.
Gamers these days are absolute, revolting jokers.
'cause huge rants voicing your complaints about the people voicing their complaints is soooo much more useful and intelligent.
Oh... wait...
I like how you ignored the parts of his post that were actually factual and instead just focused on the parts that were his opinion. Nice selectivity you have with what you respond to.
Oh, you mean the apologist excuse making?
I like how you missed my simple point - that no one here is being anymore constructive than anyone else. That said, griping about now having access to a product you bought and paid for make a lot more sense than griping about people griping.
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Reem-"Crocop? Ahhh... he's easy."
Rousey-"That's right... I only gotta learn one button and I'll kill you." - May 29, 2012 4:07 pm GMTCanuckCowboy posted...
Lord Bacon posted...
CanuckCowboy posted...
TheCurseX2 posted...
"Blizzard took their personal problem and made it EVERYBODY's problem."
Because it is everybody's problem. When you have hacks/dupes/cheats coming onto BNet then you have a ruined economy, a worse outbreak than now because people do not even need to be logged into your account to make you drop items, and so on and so forth. D2 had this so bad that they had to make a Diablo Clone in order to battle the ridiculous number of duped SOJs there were floating around at the time.
DRM is a necessary evil. If you cannot see that, then you need eye drops.
With the immense popularity of Blizzard games as it was, coupled with how much more popular they've become due to WoW, you release D3 in a D2 format then you just released hacker haven.
D1/D2 have become absolute jokes now because of this. Go on, please, I would like for you to play D1 without seeing someone with broken stats come in and either kill every challenge in that game within seconds or kill you in a thought. Play D2 and see items that were traded/given disappear after logging from the game or having your screen annihilated by bots every minute, on the minute.
And I'm telling you this as someone that went in wanting to hate D3 and in some ways, still do. When you use, "BUT I PAID MONEY" then you can use that as a device for anything your beady little eyes wants. There comes a time where you as a player has to not be a complete and utter lemming and instead see that we're not living in 1993 and that the world of video-games has changed.
The sad part is, people will always ignore the truth in these posts because we do not have a video up on a website for half-assed journalism and pictures of excrement to toss around and still expect to be taken seriously.
Gamers these days are absolute, revolting jokers.
'cause huge rants voicing your complaints about the people voicing their complaints is soooo much more useful and intelligent.
Oh... wait...
I like how you ignored the parts of his post that were actually factual and instead just focused on the parts that were his opinion. Nice selectivity you have with what you respond to.
Oh, you mean the apologist excuse making?
I like how you missed my simple point - that no one here is being anymore constructive than anyone else. That said, griping about now having access to a product you bought and paid for make a lot more sense than griping about people griping.
Except some of us are actually making logical sense, so yes, some of us are in fact being more constructive than others. And there were in fact, facts in his post, which are kind of the basis for a constructive argument.
Furthermore, people are getting what they paid for. Not being capable of reading the box and using simple, basic logic is the problem here. Again, user ignorance and/or stupidity is not Blizzard's problem.
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Taste the sandwich of my vengeance - May 29, 2012 4:16 pm GMTPeople here seem to think this was needed to stop those awful pirates.
Tell me, was the game not pirated already?
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JUS: 4382-1831-2782 Brawl: 4382 7053 3006 - May 29, 2012 4:21 pm GMTGrandy12 posted...
People here seem to think this was needed to stop those awful pirates.
Tell me, was the game not pirated already?
People here think it was for piracy because other DRM is for piracy, not because of any sort of factual evidence. The Online only requirement is because some of the game's code lies in Blizzard's servers.
It is much easier to break open game files already on your own pc than to steal them from Blizzard's servers and then break them open. This is a fact. This cannot be argued against.
And yes the game has been pirated, but it isn't playable because of said code being on Blizzard's servers. Pirates will have to make up their own code to replace the holes and run their own servers.
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Taste the sandwich of my vengeance - May 29, 2012 4:21 pm GMTProtip: Jim Sterling is a fat, untalented moron that write LOL EDGY xD things to garner hits for his trashy site. He gives great games (Kid Icarus and Gravity Daze, for example) low scores to garner hits. Then he does stupid **** and gives Kirby's Epic Yarn a 10/10.
Ignore him.
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XBL and PSN: Lionheart2390 - May 29, 2012 4:25 pm GMTTIL that disliking one aspect of a product you purchased and voicing your opinion about it makes you a moron.
- May 29, 2012 4:27 pm GMTPeople here seem to think this was needed to stop those awful pirates.
Tell me, was the game not pirated already?
No it hasn't been pirated. - May 29, 2012 4:29 pm GMTjfernatt posted...
TIL that disliking one aspect of a product you purchased and voicing your opinion about it makes you a moron.
Then you haven't read this topic very well. Agreeing to terms that you are completely against, of your own free will, and then complaining about said terms does make you a moron.
These people are more than welcome to discuss legitimate gameplay concerns and the like (though they should really do it on Blizzard's forums so that Blizzard will actually read it). But logical people are a minority on internet boards.
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Taste the sandwich of my vengeance - May 29, 2012 4:31 pm GMTI can't take anything Jim Sterling seriously. Character or not, he has such a god complex going on its absurd. I wouldn't be surprised if he thought his **** cured every disease ever.
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