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  • GAMER_X_REVIVAL
     
    Jun 3, 2012 5:16 am GMT
    Blizzard was nice letting folks pay 60 dollars to preview the alpha but, when are they gonna release the complete build?


    You know, this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg



    The current game seems to be alot blurrier, less detailed, and missing many of the aspects shown in this video, so I can only assumed the current game is a paid preview alpha?


    Hmmm.....
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    "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888
  • GAMER_X_REVIVAL
     
    Jun 3, 2012 5:17 am GMT
    Someone seems to of commented on just what I was wondering!

    https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5592453985
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    "CE's verbal cruelty is only matched by an eight-armed robot beating multiple baby seals."-PursuitandTie
  • Disastersaurus
     
    Jun 3, 2012 5:25 am GMT
    Hmm, whining about a game from someone whose signatures are just more whining about games.

    I'm totally not going to assume you have a negative disposition at all.
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    Currently playing: Diablo 3, Dragon's Dogma.
  • GAMER_X_REVIVAL
     
    Jun 3, 2012 5:27 am GMT
    GAMER_X_REVIVAL posted...
    Someone seems to of commented on just what I was wondering!

    https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5592453985


    Blizz seems to be deleting this posters post repeatedly, I guess because it sheds light on something they dont want light shed on. So just in case it does get deleted I'll post the contents of that link here:

    I've followed Diablo 3 since the first video they released up until release day. I'll attempt to keep this as simple as possible and allow you to judge for yourselves. I seriously feel after all this that Blizzard is trying to question my and everyone's intelligence. Did you seriously think we would all forget?

    I'll start with the first video ever about Diablo 3:
    Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtotXRiYimg

    Be sure to watch in High Quality.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=115s
    Jay Wilson:"We've also added a way to quick-swap between two mouse-based skills using the mouse wheel or the tab key. These additions make for a game that remains so simple you can play with just the mouse, but allows for easy skill combinations and deeper, more satisfying combat."
    Okay, what happened to this? You can't play with just a mouse, there is no quick-swap and I also notice the barbarian using a pick-axe weapon, where exactly did those go?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=138s
    Jay Wilson:"These new axes are enchanted with frost and electricity, enhancing their damage and allowing them to stun and freeze enemies."
    Alright, enhances damage, check. St--wait now, electricity stuns and frost freezes enemies? You at least had the courtesy to allow cold damage to slow but as far as elemental damage mechanics go in this game... where is the stun from electricity and the freeze from frost from the ITEMS? What exactly happened to the mechanics of ALL the OTHER elements on weapons?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=212s
    Throwing knives?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=263s
    *"ELIXIR OF VITALITY I" Drops*
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=945s
    *"ELIXIR OF WILLPOWER I" Drops*
    Are you kidding me? You cut ELIXIRS from the game as well? I even had this on a suggestion list here: https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5151720681?page=1
    The lack of attribute points to spend would have made the elixir mechanic from Diablo 1 Amazing. What the Eff?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=345s
    *Barbarian climbs down a ladder*
    Wow, actually making good use of the 3D engine you chose to use? That's a horrible idea, lets scrap that and all other ideas like this that make the game world less linear and less boring.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=354s
    *Debris falls down and creates an impassable gap in the dungeon, Barbarian Leaps over*
    Using character skills to get past dungeon obstacles? Sweet, I'm gonna go try this right now-- oh, what? This was scrapped too?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=429s
    I'm noticing multiple problems here...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=446s
    What happened to this pop up cinematic dialogue between your character and others during quests?

    cont.
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    "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888
  • GAMER_X_REVIVAL
     
    Jun 3, 2012 5:28 am GMT
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=467s
    What happened to disposable followers during quests?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=506s
    Jay Wilson:"The next area is guarded by skeletal shield-men that can block a lot of damage. They are backed up by skeletal archers who can do massive damage while the Barbarian is trying to bash through those shields."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=523s
    **Arrows clink off the shields* The Skeletons truly do block a lot of damage*
    Umm okay, why in the current game do they block once and then lose their shield completely? They're pathetic now.
    Also what happened to strategic monster placement such as this? I notice it exists for the shield-men and archers but what about the rest of the monsters in the game?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=589s
    Jay Wilson:"You can expect Diablo 3 to be filled with cool events that tell our story and bring the game world to life."
    Really? That's awesome, Jay. So where is the part I missed about Diablo, Mephisto, and Baal being suddenly trapped in the black soulstone along with Azmodan and Belial? I must have missed something huge because all of a sudden they're all combined into the prime evil.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=652s
    Wow, that Thousand Pounder, sure looks awesome all glowy and stuff. Where can I find one in game like this? ...That was cut too? Are you serious?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=672s
    Jay Wilson:"Diablo is first and foremost a cooperative game. There's nothing better than bashing monsters with your friends."
    Really, Jay? Do you really believe yourself at this point in time? There are less player slots per game than there are character classes. For those of us that can't count, that's 5 character classes and only 4 people allowed in a game at once. The previous games allowed all classes to fit in one game +1 additional player.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=978s
    Jay Wilson:"...lets see what a real fight looks like."
    Indeed, that was awesome, is there any reason at all why the current boss fights aren't this creative?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=1084s
    *Siegebreaker Assault Beast Fatality: Barbarian is picked up and has his head bitten off*
    Wow, let me guess, cut from the game right? Yep, but it goes beyond that. This entire video was orchestrated to be an advertisement. Jay Wilson is telling you to expect these things in the game but we have Blue Posters even admitting that Fatalities were a farce. They were scripted events with someone "typing them in with a keyboard" so they would happen at appropriate times.
    Source:
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/3967589584?page=5#82
    01/30/2012 10:28 AMPosted by BashiokThe one we showed of the siegebreaker was a scripted sequence we set up specifically for that video. It was never implemented, and never actually worked without someone sitting there typing in a bunch of commands to get it all to fire off properly

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=1123s
    *Siegebreaker immolates into ash as unholy energy disperses out of it's remains and plummets into the ground, hordes of skeletons spawn from the points of impact*
    Again, amazing...where exactly do I get this game and how much does it cost? Is there some super secret level in the current game that will allow me to experience things like this?

    cont.
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    "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888
  • GAMER_X_REVIVAL
     
    Jun 3, 2012 5:29 am GMT
    If a Blue has actually bothered to read this far this thread is probably going to be deleted. I'd suggest you read my constructive post on how to properly fix this game, though. If you care at all about your customers. Without their feedback your company is nothing.
    https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5151720681?page=1

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    With that said. That was only one video. Let's continue on to Blizzcon for all the people that will say "Oh that was just an alpha" Ignoring the fact that the last video was fed to us as an Ad. I urge you to watch it in it's entirety.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VP956VP4VYE#t=694s
    Jay Wilson:"The stash is massive. It's very very very big."
    No, it's not, I'm forced to mule as it is right now. At least in Diablo 2 we were able to make an unlimited amount of accounts to hold our items, this pales in comparison to that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LAfsNu7m7cg#t=476s
    Christian Lichtner:"...the dye system will also have, uh, [incomprehensible] rare dyes, meaning that you'll be able to just have, find, or even craft very rare dyes..."
    Jay Wilson, maybe. But, Christian? I'm surprised at you. This never made it into the game either, buddy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Z7mTfLV5g&feature=player_detailpage#t=454s
    *Jay Wilson on Numbers in the game and making numbers "awesome"*
    Jay Wilson:"...0.1% doesn't sound very awesome. So for us it's like no, it's a big number, it's 25, 50, 100% more. Whatever number basically sounds cool when we get it. So, we're really working on the system to make sure that these don't feel like weird numbers that you're not sure what to do. Diablo customization is very straight forward. The idea is very, you know, simple to grasp, and that's important to us."
    I'm not sure if this even needs another source or explanation if you've played the game, and paid attention to all the nerfs. Smoke screen lasts 1 second, runed it lasts 1.5 seconds, Serenity's buff to allies lasts 1 second, down from 2 seconds, need I go on? These numbers sure sound cool.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YjwAOr9_gwk#t=3090s
    *On tons of viable builds, 2.8 TRILLION builds, MELEE Wizard etc.*
    I didn't understand exactly what was going on in this video until I played the game, this is NOT a "melee Wizard" as Jay puts it. What exactly is melee about holding an axe and using SPELLS to kill things? This game doesn't support such a thing as a melee Wizard.

    Jay Wilson:"...not a common build for a wizard, but a viable one."
    What I immediately see is a Wizard with Explosive Blast, Wave of Force, Slow Time, Diamond Skin, Normal Attack, and Spectral Blade. The only reason this is viable at all is because of all the SPELLS he's using. Do you SEE what happens when he stops using spells with his ultra fun build to use Normal Attack? He puts up Diamond Skin and ALMOST DIES. Phew, good thing those AOE spells saved that "viable melee wizard" from dying.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YjwAOr9_gwk#t=3117s
    *"Viable Builds over Optimal Builds" 2.8 TRILLION builds*

    This next quote is a long one but probably the most important one of this thread...

    cont.
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    "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888
  • GAMER_X_REVIVAL
     
    Jun 3, 2012 5:30 am GMT
    Jay Wilson:"So why? Why Viable over optimal? Why are we even talking about this? So, Diablo has tons and tons of customization, we did the math on the new skill systems with the combination of passives and runes and we threw a crazy number out, uh, a few years back like 69 Billion, we're really more in the area of 2.8 Trillion- Trillion? Trillion. [2.8] Trillion builds. So that's a lot of builds. Um, and why? Why so many builds? Because customization is self expression, and if you have to build a character to be perfectly optimized, that's not really going to allow you to customize that character.

    So our job is to make sure that, yeah, that, you know, while there might be some best builds there's tons and tons of viable ones. It's totally okay for there to be best builds, it's totally okay for someone to go 'you know what, I made this Barbarian and he's got like 0.5% more damage than any other build you can possibly make.' And you know what, there's nothing wrong with that...unless you can't...unless that number becomes 'oh this, this Barbarian's like 50% more powerful.'

    So if we can get enough builds into that range of 'these are all viable, they can play at the max level.' It means you can play the character you want to play at max level and not be beholding anyone. So what we say is, go out, have fun, be free and make the Diablo character you want to make."

    That last one was incredibly long, depressing and insulting in my opinion, and he just gobbles up the applause. I think that concludes my point. Can anybody reading this tell me this is true? Anybody in Inferno having fun with "crazy builds?"

    Here's an afterthought:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SnDCmvWqG5s#t=830s
    Besides the fact that Obsidian ring of the Zodiac was a magical item from Diablo 1 and NOT Diablo 2, you said you'd be "better" about things like this but prior unique items from the past games are still lacking consistency...I sure don't feel lied to. Blizzard is awesome...

    Again I urge Blue posters to actually look at my suggestion thread here:

    https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5151720681?page=1

    I tried to be constructive and fell on deaf ears/blind eyes. So I hope I have your attention now.

    And thats all of it.

    So, I wonder when the real Diablo 3 will be released?
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    "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888
  • Zenosaiga
     
    Jun 3, 2012 5:39 am GMT
    Waiting for Diablo 3.1....
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  • XxXSlaynXxX
     
    Jun 3, 2012 5:41 am GMT
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  • Ronteque
     
    Jun 3, 2012 5:48 am GMT
    Exactly, I agree with you TC.. I have been pondering.. whether to get my refund or wait a little more just to see if Blizzard finally decides to release the full game patch.

    Anyone who says otherwise are obviously Blizzard fanboys that have been manipulated beyond redemption.
  • BigAl519
     
    User is Online
    Jun 3, 2012 5:50 am GMT
    GAMER_X_REVIVAL posted...
    Blizzard was nice letting folks pay 60 dollars to preview the alpha but, when are they gonna release the complete build?


    You know, this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg



    The current game seems to be alot blurrier, less detailed, and missing many of the aspects shown in this video, so I can only assumed the current game is a paid preview alpha?


    Hmmm.....


    Whine much? Maybe you should spend more time working to invest in a computer capable of playing the game in better than the lowest graphical settings, instead of blaming the game? Have to say it looks perfectly fine on my rig.

    Also LOL if you actually think this game was supposed to be a new level of graphics or something. Its a blizzard game, they try to cater to the masses instead of just those who can afford the best of the best PC's. You don't like your crappy graphics then don't play on crappy PC's.
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    A real gamer will buy any system and enjoy it, a tool will sit on a forum trying to bash one or the other!
  • Etharin
     
    Jun 3, 2012 5:53 am GMT
    Ronteque posted...
    Exactly, I agree with you TC.. I have been pondering.. whether to get my refund or wait a little more just to see if Blizzard finally decides to release the full game patch.

    Anyone who says otherwise are obviously Blizzard fanboys that have been manipulated beyond redemption.


    Wait till the RMAH is out and sell all your stuff then get a refund. Hopefully it's out before the 30 day limit but I think they are stalling it just for this reason.
  • GAMER_X_REVIVAL
     
    Jun 3, 2012 6:03 am GMT
    Slayn posted...
    Diablo 3 fans are so whiney and full of nostalgia, they even think the trailer is better.

    Bravo.


    -Trailer full of cool content that was cut from the game in favor of a more watered down and bland experience
    -Implying it isn't literally better in every way than what was actually released


    I can't tell if you're trolling or just the blindest blizzard fanboy I've seen so far
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    "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888
  • col237
     
    Jun 3, 2012 6:07 am GMT
    Im laughing my ass off at the 2.8 trillion builds part. Drop the .8 and the trillion and there you have it. Using the necessary 3-5 skills for Inferno and swapping 1 or 2 does not qualify as a new build.
  • Zeran_kariashi
     
    User is Online
    Jun 3, 2012 6:17 am GMT
    You realize the game looks like **** even with every graphic option available (except the ones to limit stuff for performance) turned on? I actually think WoW has better graphics then this now. Well, for stuff that's gotten new skins anyway.


    And yes, that b.net forum post is awesome, read it. There were some things there I had actually forgotten about...and blizz people actually admitting that the "teaser footage" was just a fully scripted event in an entirely different game engine.


    And the lack of a quick swap is horrible. That's one thing Diablo 2 did MUCH better. Hot swapping abilities instantly just tapping a key. I've been so aggravated by that, especially for skills you only use every once in awhile, like summons (and those ridiculous CDs on them make them even less useful even when they die quickly). Even setting them on the bar feels like a waste cause you could put something else more interesting there.
  • Timbermaw
     
    Jun 3, 2012 6:14 am GMT
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg#t=978s

    *Siegebreaker Assault Beast Fatality: Barbarian is picked up and has his head bitten off*
    Wow, let me guess, cut from the game right? Yep, but it goes beyond that. This entire video was orchestrated to be an advertisement. Jay Wilson is telling you to expect these things in the game but we have Blue Posters even admitting that Fatalities were a farce. They were scripted events with someone "typing them in with a keyboard" so they would happen at appropriate times.

    Source:
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/3967589584?page=5#82
    Bashiok
    The one we showed of the siegebreaker was a scripted sequence we set up specifically for that video. It was never implemented, and never actually worked without someone sitting there typing in a bunch of commands to get it all to fire off properly


    This is a goldmine. Blizzdrones, are you even trying?
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    Gamer Entitlement analyst, PhD.
  • ddrboy54
     
    Jun 3, 2012 6:20 am GMT
    "The lack of attribute points to spend would have made the elixir mechanic from Diablo 1 Amazing. What the Eff?"

    This is the only thing you need to read to know he's stupid.
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  • GAMER_X_REVIVAL
     
    Jun 3, 2012 6:22 am GMT
    BigAl519 posted...
    GAMER_X_REVIVAL posted...
    Blizzard was nice letting folks pay 60 dollars to preview the alpha but, when are they gonna release the complete build?


    You know, this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jtotXRiYimg



    The current game seems to be alot blurrier, less detailed, and missing many of the aspects shown in this video, so I can only assumed the current game is a paid preview alpha?


    Hmmm.....


    Whine much? Maybe you should spend more time working to invest in a computer capable of playing the game in better than the lowest graphical settings, instead of blaming the game? Have to say it looks perfectly fine on my rig.

    Also LOL if you actually think this game was supposed to be a new level of graphics or something. Its a blizzard game, they try to cater to the masses instead of just those who can afford the best of the best PC's. You don't like your crappy graphics then don't play on crappy PC's.



    No offense but the point flew over your head at about mach 10 there and you entirely missed it. Also, see you own sig about tools sitting on forums bashing individuals. Just sayin

    In other news, I can run crysis on max settings just fine. So Diablo 3s 'last days of the PS2' tier graphics aren't a problem for my PC. I'm not gonna hold your hand and point out what I was saying about the current games level of detail vs whats shown in the video, hopefully one day you can figure it out for yourself
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    "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888
  • Ghidoran
     
    Jun 3, 2012 6:23 am GMT
    Wow, that thread is chock full of misinformation and petty whining. I mean, really? You look at all the little features (most of which I'm guessing are scripted specifically for the video) and complain about them, and ignore everything that came after?

    These people make me ashamed to be a gamer.
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    Shall Tremble | / | / \ | > |__ \ /
  • linkkhalid89
     
    Jun 3, 2012 6:28 am GMT
    I love how many Blizzard fanboys jump in to defend the game by calling people who dislike it "whiners."
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