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The ATI Radeon HD 3870 and HD 3850 are both fine cards and are compelling values at their respective sub-$300 and sub-$200 price points. However, PC enthusiasts were expecting more when AMD first introduced its ATI Radeon HD 3800 lineup late last year, namely a high-performance card that could take on Nvidia's GeForce 8800 GTX. AMD didn't have an answer for the GTX last November, but it did promise a dual-GPU card for early 2008: the ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2. Today we take our first look at AMD's new dual-GPU video card.

The card itself looks much like any other single-fan, double-wide video card, but a close side examination reveals two separate heat sinks for the card's dual GPUs (and a third, smaller heatsink for the bridge chip). The GPUs are basically Radeon HD 3870 cores with improved power efficiency and higher clock speeds. Each X2 graphics chip runs at 825MHz compared to 775MHz for a single Radeon HD 3870. The card comes with 1GB of GDDR3 memory, 512MB for each GPU. The X2 performance will definitely be better than a single Radeon HD 3870, but not quite double the power. Expect to lose some performance due to the overhead involved in getting two GPUs to work in tandem. The X2 also has slower 1.8GHz GDDR3 memory compared to the Radeon HD 3870's 2.25GHz GDDR4 memory.

The Radeon HD 3870 X2 shares the same features as the rest of the cards in the Radeon HD 3800 series family. That means you'll get DirectX 10.1, and full hardware-accelerated HD video decode. The DirectX 10.1 support is a forward-looking feature that will benefit you later down the line, but the HD video acceleration will help immediately with HD-DVD, Blu-ray, and all the major HD video file compression standards. The Radeon also has a built-in sound processor that allows the card to output full HDMI, both audio and video, directly to an external display device.

The Radeon HD 3870 X2 requires only a single video card slot, but you currently cannot run two cards together in CrossFire at this time. AMD has told GameSpot that it plans to offer X2 CrossFire support this March. The card also lacks PCI Express 2.0 because the special bridge chip that connects the card's GPUs together only supports PCI Express 1.1.

We recommend getting a 500W power supply for the X2. You will also want to make sure that the power supply has the right power cables for the X2's external power requirements. The card has one eight-pin socket and one six-pin socket, but the eight-pin socket will work with a six-pin cable.

We tested the $449 Radeon HD 3870 X2 against its closest price competition, the GeForce 8800 GTX. Both cards share the $400-$500 high-end range. We tossed in a Radeon HD 3870 CrossFire setup to see how the dual-card configuration compares to its single-card replacement. We also added a $1,000 GeForce 8800 GTX SLI system and a single $250 Radeon HD 3870 to show you what kind of performance you can get at higher and lower price points.

ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2 Performance

(Longer bars indicate better performance)

3DMark06, 1280x1024

GeForce 8800 GTX SLI
13515
Radeon HD 3870 X2
13156
Radeon HD 3870 CrossFire
13240
GeForce 8800 GTX
11555
Radeon HD 3870
10540

Call of Duty 4, 1600x1200, Maximum Quality

GeForce 8800 GTX SLI
105
Radeon HD 3870 X2
62
Radeon HD 3870 CrossFire
60
GeForce 8800 GTX
75
Radeon HD 3870
62

Crysis, 1600x1200, High Quality

GeForce 8800 GTX SLI
45
Radeon HD 3870 X2
35
Radeon HD 3870 CrossFire
34
GeForce 8800 GTX
31
Radeon HD 3870
24

Unreal Tournament, 1600x1200, 4xAA, 8xAF, High Quality

GeForce 8800 GTX SLI
121
Radeon HD 3870 X2
74
Radeon HD 3870 CrossFire
75
GeForce 8800 GTX
66
Radeon HD 3870
47
System Setup: Intel Core 2 X6800, Intel 975XBX2, eVGA 680i, 2GB Corsair XMS Memory (1GBx2), 750GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA Hard Disk Drive, Windows XP Professional SP2. Graphics Cards: GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB, Radeon HD 3870 X2 1GB, Radeon HD 3870 512MB. Graphics Drivers: Catalyst beta 8-451-2-080108a, Nvidia ForceWare 169.28.

The X2 cruises by the GTX in Crysis and Unreal Tournament 3 but falls slightly behind in Call of Duty 4. We noticed that the X2 and CrossFire setup did not seem to offer any performance improvement over the single Radeon HD 3870 in our Call of Duty 4 test, which usually indicates some kind of multi-GPU setting snafu or plain old user error, but we determined that our level selection was the cause of the performance peculiarity. It appears that the intense firefight at the start of "The Bog" level in our Call of Duty 4 test doesn't allow the X2 or CrossFire systems to put up as many gaudy numbers as on the easier levels. The X2 showed a 60 percent frame rate improvement over the Radeon HD 3870 when we tested the opening sequence of an earlier mission.

Crysis Performance, Windows Vista 32-bit

(Longer bars indicate better performance)

Crysis, 1600x1200, High Quality

Radeon HD 3870 X2, Beta 8-451-2-080123a
30
Radeon HD 3870 X2, Beta 8-451-2-080108a
20
Radeon HD 3870 CrossFire, Beta 8-451-2-080123a
28
Radeon HD 3870 CrossFire, Beta 8-451-2-080108a
18
System Setup: Intel Core 2 X6800, Intel 975XBX2, 2GB Corsair XMS Memory (1GBx2), 750GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA Hard Disk Drive, Windows Vista 32-bit. Graphics Cards: Radeon HD 3870 X2 1GB, Radeon HD 3870 512MB. Graphics Drivers: Catalyst beta 8-451-2-080108a, Catalyst beta 8-451-2-080123a.

AMD recently released a new driver to improve Crysis performance in Windows Vista. It appears that the drivers simply bring the Vista numbers more in line with Windows XP performance.

Call of Duty 4 issues aside, the Radeon HD 3870 X2 does appear to be a viable choice among the sub-$500 video cards. The X2 performed well compared to the GeForce 8800 GTX in our benchmark tests, justifying its status as AMD's flagship card. The X2 also has the HD video decode acceleration and HDMI support media fans demand. We had been worried about encountering multi-GPU related issues with the X2, but we can say that we didn't encounter any of those types of problems with the card, the graphics drivers, or game support. The Radeon HD 3870 X2 behaved like a single-GPU video card, and that's the way we like it.

466 Comments

  • Omislash1234

    Posted Dec 17, 2008 4:20 pm PT

    These benchmarks are bogus compared to tests on other websites, That must be because all computers can be configured different. I have This card and it has done nothing but amaze me.

  • fel_rossi

    Posted Sep 17, 2008 5:55 am PT

    lol

  • SmallMafia

    Posted Jun 5, 2008 2:03 pm PT

    The tech business is always like this; some times up and some times down. I actually miss the days where ATi and nVidia were so closely matched it was like watching a street fight!

  • chandlerr_360

    Posted May 12, 2008 7:31 pm PT

    Nvidia's new 9000 line is freaking joke. AMD and ATI will always be the best PC consumer company, not overpriced Intel and low quality Nvidia.

  • DarkknightFXR

    Posted Apr 8, 2008 8:09 pm PT

    Buy the Radeon HD3870X2, it has greater performance on Windows Vista then the other cards, it's well designed for Vista while the other cards get degraded in performance the 3870X2 nearly doubles

  • TerryPeat

    Posted Apr 1, 2008 5:34 am PT

    What should I choose ?

    ATI Radeon HD 3870X2 or GeForce 9800GX2 ?

    Which one is better for me?

    with $200-$400 budget


    PLEASE HELP ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    I WANT TO PLAY CRYSIS

  • dirtylarrygb

    Posted Mar 29, 2008 9:33 am PT

    Ultimate performance is Ultra x3. Then depending on the game GX2x2 or 3870x2CF, thing is although the Ultras powns the other 2 at 1920-2560 res for the money asked the 3870x2 is a bargain for people using 1600 res or below. Alot of fanbois sit saying ati or nvidia are faster. At XHD nothing, not even the GX2 is CLOSE to 3 Ultras. But 3 Ul;tras cost more than most peoples PC's. If you want value 9600GT SLi/8800GT Sli or 3870x2 are bargains and give better performnce in new multi GPU titles than a single ultra and still cost LESS. But remeber alot of games hate multigpu either CF or SLI so then a GX2 or 3870x2 is a pain and you'll wish you got an ultra...

  • sykonfc

    Posted Mar 26, 2008 3:54 pm PT

    I have yet to see one benchmark run two ATi 3870 X2 together; and I'd like to see the results of that very much.

  • lfg18

    Posted Mar 19, 2008 10:24 pm PT

    Well at least some decent competition for nvidia

  • ice_itz

    Posted Mar 8, 2008 2:35 pm PT

    I know nvidia is...strong, but even if it scores 10000 3d mark'smore ..I dont care.. AMD for LIFE, Ati for FUTURE, & it's sure!

  • mafdys

    Posted Mar 3, 2008 3:54 pm PT

    im getting this card in crossfire, wonder how thats gonna be like!

  • Lilgunney612

    Posted Mar 1, 2008 8:52 pm PT

    "if you want pure quality go for Nvidia because it just flat out beats Ati in performance but if you want price to performance you best to go with Ati cause I think that they want to go for the main stream market.... I mean Ati changed the gddr4 memory on the 3870x2 to gddr3 just to lower the pricing point....."

    this is why the 3870x2 beats out any single nvidia card even the new 9800gtx?

  • metalkid9

    Posted Feb 29, 2008 8:17 am PT

    i think what a lot of people don't understand is that 8800 gtx beats 3870 x2 when the its SLIed cuz x2 destroyed the gtx. and you can also get the x2 SLIed and it'll beat gtx SLI

  • d-DanGerous

    Posted Feb 27, 2008 10:51 pm PT

    if you want pure quality go for Nvidia because it just flat out beats Ati in performance but if you want price to performance you best to go with Ati cause I think that they want to go for the main stream market.... I mean Ati changed the gddr4 memory on the 3870x2 to gddr3 just to lower the pricing point......

  • dnp25

    Posted Feb 27, 2008 10:46 am PT

    ATI has the best card out now , even with the crappy 9600gt nvidia card out . If nvidia wants to compete against ati the 9800 x2 will have to retail for $500 us dollars the most if not so long NVIDIA.Folks this is not a power war its a price war and you guys should stop being bias because I for one switch to whoever as the best deals (with power in mind of course).THE 3870x2 is for $450us at some places and it is better than the still overpriced 8800 ultra .I am getting one of these cards but waiting first like a smart consumer would to see if the 9800x2 is better in price and power then I will make my decision if I want NVIDIA or ATI. I am Gaming with a 8800 nvidia now .Not picking sides just making CENT$.

  • killzone117

    Posted Feb 24, 2008 6:06 pm PT

    Nvidia is a lot better than ATI

  • aravindsbabu

    Posted Feb 23, 2008 9:48 am PT

    ATI is dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Nyar47

    Posted Feb 18, 2008 1:52 pm PT

    your a bunch of pricks gamespot, thats a sham of a reveiw. and the results are in contrast to other reputable websites. in most websites the X2 beats an ultra.

  • drdvl

    Posted Feb 17, 2008 8:49 pm PT

    ATI is going to go bankrupt! Then ill be sad because Nividia won't have anyone to beat up on : /

  • Trinity567

    Posted Feb 16, 2008 2:59 pm PT

    http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7356.html

    Excellent line-up

  • wingnut99

    Posted Feb 15, 2008 11:50 pm PT

    Next....

  • xrydersx

    Posted Feb 14, 2008 9:02 am PT

    wow new ATi oookkkkk then whats next

  • Trinity567

    Posted Feb 13, 2008 5:04 pm PT

    Four out of the five ALUs are simple, capable of executing one FP MAD instruction per clock cycle, and the fifth ALU can execute complex instructions like SIN, COS, LOG, EXP, etc. This architecture is highly flexible and scalable, but depends heavily on software optimizations. Although each Radeon HD core contains a special task dispatcher, its efficiency depends directly on the efficiency of the shader code compiler, which is part of the driver. The superscalar architecture offers its highest performance when all the ALUs are busy computing independent operations but it is hard to achieve that because in 3D applications many operations depend on the results of previous operations. That's why Radeon HD GPUs require application-specific optimizations in the driver. Unfortunately, AMD has problems with that as it doesn't have access to the innards of games participating in Nvidia's The Way It's Meant to Be Played program. They have to optimize the driver after the final release of the game. It is more difficult and, sometimes, not as successful as we might wish.

    Perhaps ATI's vision of the future of GPUs is indeed more progressive than Nvidia's, but game developers are always oriented at the most popular architecture, not the most innovative one, and this architecture is currently represented by the scalar cores of the GeForce 8 series.

    AMD has to cooperate more with game developers in order to overcome this problem. It also has to offer new high-speed graphics solutions in due time and reduce prices for its products when necessary. Such measures would make Radeon HD cards interesting for end-users and popular among gamers " the company's reputation on the consumer 3D market would be restored then.

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd3870-hd3850_4.html

  • SKaREO

    Posted Feb 13, 2008 7:08 am PT

    nVidia is blowing ATI out of the water, with this new card, ATI has failed for the last time. ATI video cards have poor driver support and lots of problems outside the box. If they don't shape up their product support, they're going to go bankrupt, and nVidia is going to remain the champ.

  • raza_rizvi_002

    Posted Feb 9, 2008 11:37 am PT

    wat shud i buy to keep my asus en8800 gts 320 mb coool :S, i want sumthing really good to make the temp go down alot

  • kingofqueen

    Posted Feb 8, 2008 4:24 pm PT

    i love ATI,they got cheap cards and anyway,i don't have a big big screen to play in1600x1200.so what the point having high end card.i just want to play in medium mode and my IBM t60 with ATI X1400 can play call of duty 4 medium and even Unreal Tournament.They still look good to me

  • Trinity567

    Posted Feb 8, 2008 12:30 pm PT

    the 3 ultras are better... if price doesn't matter.

    They switched to am2 on me too.. soon after i bought my s939. But then soon after my s939 died... and i switch to intel... so oh well.

    i want to see if there will be a performance improvement for ati cards over nvidia cards with the dx10.1 update. From what I've read it looks like the amd cards were built with dx10.1 in mind

  • zee147

    Posted Feb 8, 2008 11:17 am PT

    whats better, 3 8800 ultra's or 2 hd3870x2's price doesn't matter (im not sure of the max no. of hd3870x2's you can have in crossfire)

  • Darkdesires

    Posted Feb 8, 2008 6:18 am PT

    looks good but my 2 years old 7900gtx xxx its still there . after 2 years and I can still play everything maxed out. Only crysis got me some problems but I can play in High quality and 1280 with decent performance

  • maestro4202

    Posted Feb 8, 2008 4:24 am PT

    I got a 3870 (not x2) and lets say I haven't been dissapointed. Interesting how my card has DDR4 when their flagship card uses DDR3. Then again what do I know. I'm for competition over fanoyism too...if you let either side get too cozy, nothings to stop them from handing out the same stale bread over and over. My 6600 GT held up great for many years, lets just say neither side has let me down...yet...

    *** Before I edited, it said I posted this in 1969..haha wat the..

  • gaz-420

    Posted Feb 7, 2008 8:59 pm PT

    @Trinity

    I'm just kidding. I hope ATi keeps this up. It will make the price of the stuff I buy cheaper. You have to admit though, the 8800 has had an impressive run. If ATI does something impressive, I will switch to them. But since I already have 3X8800GTX's in SLI (right place at the right time, mind you), I'm set for now. And, I was really rooting for the phenom, but that new intel wolfdale chip is really cool. I just got one yesterday (E8400). I also really like the Nvidia motherboards, have had great luck with those. I even have an old NF4 with an x2 4400+ in it. It is a workhorse.

    I am waiting for ATI/AMD to work out the bugs, and maybe even step it up a bit so I can build a crossfire box. I am a hardware enthusiast, and I do like to test different platforms. They kind of made me mad with the socket 939 to AM2 conversion. I had just bought my 939 and they switched on me.

    Have a good one. Game on!!

  • Trinity567

    Posted Feb 7, 2008 5:20 pm PT

    phenom isn't that far behind intels quad core... but yeah they have a few bugs to workout. Why trust nvidia and their promises either? Crossfire is definitely going to be supported by this card but no one said ppl must run out and buy 2 now. For all we know when CF comes out for it the price will go down. G80 is dead... we wait for the nvidia response.

  • gaz-420

    Posted Feb 7, 2008 4:54 pm PT

    These cards don't do crossfire yet? They are going to need 2 of these cards in crossfire to beat 1 9800 card. they better get going......Hurry, run out and buy one, crossfire is coming soon, so you better buy 2. Better take their word for it also.....Wait a minute, is it going to take another year? who knows.....

    So far AMD/ATI has yet to come out with a Nvidia (G80)/Intel (c2d) killer.... Nvidia will have to make the same mistakes they made in the past for this to happen. Hopefully they have learned their lesson.

  • psiho246

    Posted Feb 7, 2008 4:13 pm PT

    Glad to see you are all being objective and not a bunch of fanboys.
    Testing clearly shows x2 beats the 8800. 8800 is an older card and im guessing the next card that comes out from nvidia will beat the crap out of x2, but then again ATI will release something even more monstrous that will beat the 9xxx series of nvidia. Its just how things work, no need to bash and flame couse of that. Both company's offer great GPUs and thats a fact, both will release GPUs that will be top notch cards for few months.

  • Trinity567

    Posted Feb 7, 2008 3:51 pm PT

    dual 8800ultras... LOL. unfortunately for u this card in crossfire will Sh*t on ur dual ultras. LOL. Nvidia has had cards out for how long u say and this is just finally beating all of nvidias cardsu say. So that means it doesn't matter? Well i say AMD had a good response already in the hd series... just couldn't surmount the nvidia stranglehold on the industry of game development. And maybe some crap drivers.. whatever. Nvidia hasn't responded as yet and that is because they delayed their new cards... why? who knows. Might be making some last minute OCs, trying to get their gx2 to match and surpass the x2 cause they are lacking in engineering know how. But if they had this wonderful years lead u'd think they'd be able to release something in time.

  • gaz-420

    Posted Feb 7, 2008 2:21 pm PT

    It is beating cards over a year old!! OMG, hurry up, run out and buy one!!

  • copjunk

    Posted Feb 7, 2008 2:08 pm PT

    I have dual EVGA 8800Ultra's Superclocked and I'm glad to see they will tear this ATI piece of trash apart.
    ~scol

  • Trinity567

    Posted Feb 7, 2008 11:18 am PT

    It bests the ultra in other reviews. it is the fastest card with bugs.

  • laxmidd50

    Posted Feb 7, 2008 10:25 am PT

    If you noticed, they compared it to the 8800 GTX, not ultra. Its the best in its price range, not the best overall.

  • jckbac9

    Posted Feb 7, 2008 10:04 am PT

    How isnt this one of the best cards on the market??? On most games this card outperforms a single 8800 gtx! Get two or four of these cards in crossfire (same thing as sli) and you would outperform nvidias leading cards. Am i missing something here? Because this seems to me like an 8800 killer.

  • Trinity567

    Posted Feb 7, 2008 9:03 am PT

    nvidia has the fastest GPU in the world huh... but guess what - AMD has the best GPUs below $200. Thats what u call best for ur money.

  • BontraXenderKyl

    Posted Feb 7, 2008 8:49 am PT

    ATI never defeated Nvidia for long time!
    during Q1 of 2008 Nvidia will return her lead and hit back with better graphic cards than 8 series
    and after that ATI will not overtake the lead again because AMD has many problems in those days and if they want to succeed with their processes they have to stop the progressing process and invest more time in the proccesses.
    And after all those things many companies now combine their computers in Nvidia chip because people want to get the best compensation for the money and the best quality (especially after that we all have seen the games requirement of Q4 of 2007).

  • bloodbath86

    Posted Feb 7, 2008 12:22 am PT

    Bogus benchmarks
    Don't you mean Unreal tournament 3?

  • EnderIIWiggen

    Posted Feb 6, 2008 6:37 pm PT

    Excellent, its nice to see ATI taking the lead in performance again, so as to keep the competition going. The unfortunate part though, is that this card in terms of hardware is superior to the 8800 ultra in every way by far, and it still barely manages to beat the 800 ultra. Ever since the ATI/AMD merger, their driver infrastructure got waaaay behind. When Nvidia releases their 9800X2's (confirmed by Tom's hardware) ehich is basically the same exact thing but using the Nvidia driver infrastructure, It will absolutely dominate the 3870X2. Unless ATI makes up some serious ground, they are going to feel very much like they did when Nvidia released the 8800 series.

  • gaz-420

    Posted Feb 6, 2008 5:09 pm PT

    Where do you people get your information? Please post the link on Nvidia releasing it's 9800 cards next month. And, yes, make sure it is a link from a reputable source. Otherwise, Put up or shut-up. And that crap about Nvidia boosting its cards to an unsupported thermal level is totally a bunch of ATI suck-up propaganda. They just don't do stuff like that. I doubt even AMD/ATI themselves buy into that story. Let's all believe everything we read on the web!!

    Like I said before, if anything, this just helps Nvidia, because now, they can wait to release the 9800 series, and make sure they get it right. Look at the numbers, not only here, but elsewhere, the ATI X2 does barely beat an 8800GTX. It better, the GTX is over a year old!!! Why did it take them this long? And they are telling me that there will be support for crossfire in the future? When in the future? A year from now....a month.....2 years? By then there will be something new out that smokes two of these cards. I know one thing, Nvidia is not worried, and, they are probably tickled by these numbers.

    Look at the numbers.....If you already have a GTX Card, go get another one, and an SLI motherboard. The perfermance to price ratio over X2 is stil much better.

    I am not a fanboy, I just go where the performance and quality is,. And right now, Nivdia is that place, along with intel. I have had my core2, 680i and 8800GTX card (the 1st one) for over a year. That is saying something for an enthusiast. Who knows, in two years I may have ATI/AMD in my computer (again), but they better get with it.

    XBOX 360 PEOPLE ---- SHUT UP!! This is a forum on V-i-d-e-o C-a-r-d-s, not how much you love your XBOX, or how you can't afford a PC. All's I can say, is, your seriously missing out!!!

  • fel_rossi

    Posted Feb 6, 2008 3:43 pm PT

    Still prefer the GeForce 8800