"Censorship reflects a society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime." -- Potter Stewart (American Judge and associate justice of the US Supreme Court (1958-81))

How much does the right to choose what content you view mean to you, the consumer? Over the next three weeks, GameSpot AU will explore the thorny issue of videogame classification and censorship in Australia. We'll attempt to clarify some of the common misconceptions about game ratings, demystify the process behind classification, as well as examine in detail all of the reasons why Australia has no R18+ rating for games and what you--the Aussie gamer--can do to try and spur some change.

Part One of our feature will look at how the current system works, and the history of games classification in Australia (including self-regulation). Part Two--which will hit GameSpot AU late next week--will take a look at the consistency of cross-media classification, provide a comparison of worldwide standards to see how Australia's censorship laws stack up, and explain why games here lack an R18+ rating in the first place. In Part Three, we'll take a look behind the scenes, evaluating the impact of banned goods on retailers, developers, and you--the players. We'll also gaze into the GameSpot AU crystal ball, and attempt to pick some of the controversial titles of 2008, and predict how they'll fare when they run the game classification gauntlet.


"I find censorship today in Australia a mass of confusing and conflicting laws..." -- Bill Hayden, Former Governor-General of Australia

Dark Sector, Manhunt, Marc Ecko's Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure, Reservoir Dogs, BMX XXX, Blitz: The League, and Postal 2. What do all these games have in common?

All of the above games are banned for sale in Australia, casualties of our country's strict games classification system. While other forms of media (such as films and DVDs) have ratings that allow for the distribution of content deemed suitable for adults only, games do not. The highest classification available for a video game down under is MA15+, a rating which states that anyone under the age of 15 must be accompanied by an adult while playing. Films and DVDs, on the other hand, have an R18+ rating for content deemed suitable only for people aged 18 years and over. With MA15+ the highest rating available for games, any content deemed suitable only for adults 18 years old and over is refused classification by our country's peak ratings body, rendering that content illegal for sale in Australia.


Meet Dark Sector, the most recent game to be banned in Australia.

Industry groups such as Electronic Frontier Australia (EFA) and the Interactive Entertainment Association of Australia (IEAA) believe a lack of an R18+ rating for games does a disservice to Australian consumers and adults by creating division between the film and video game mediums, which further muddies the waters when determining suitability of content. They also contend that that the growing disparity between ratings for film and computer games shows an ignorance of the changing nature of media consumption in Australia. The other effect of these restricted classification guidelines is that producers of mature-themed content must self-censor their work to fit the highest available MA15+ rating or risk being refused classification.

The Office of Film and Literature Classification (OFLC) is the government body responsible for classification, and as such has been the target for many an Australian gamer's ire. While the organisation factors heavily in the game classification process, all of the OFLC's decisions are bound within the confines of a legislative framework determined by state and national law. To better understand how this works, let's take a look at how video games are classified down under, and how legislation governs the type of content which can be made available to consumers.


"I'm all in favour of free expression, provided it's kept rigidly under control." (Alan Bennett, Forty Years On, 1969)

Before any video game is made legally available for sale in Australia, the OFLC must assign a classification rating to that specific title. Depending on the nature of its content, a game in Australia can either receive a rating of G, PG, M, or MA15+. To decide what rating a game receives, the OFLC looks at the game's stated content and compares it to content guidelines as set out in a piece of legislation called the National Classification Scheme, which is based on the Commonwealth Classification Act 1995 (the National Classification Code is actually part of the Act).

The Classification Code itself opens with the noble sentiment that "adults should be able to read, hear and see what they want." Below this are listed goals of protecting minors and all other consumers of media from exposure to offensive or disturbing material. Section (d) of the code specifically deals with "community concerns about depictions that condone or incite violence, particularly sexual violence; and the portrayal of persons in a demeaning manner."


Graffiti cost Marc Ecko's Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure its rating down under.

There are six classifiable elements when analysing media such as a video game to determine what rating it should carry: violence, sex, language, drug use, themes, and nudity. Each is uniquely identified and evaluated to assess their impact and contextual use in the title's broader picture. Intensity and frequency also play a role and are used to measure an element against the acceptability of the MA15+ rating. Prolonging, repeating, drawing attention to, or encouraging interactivity in a game's scene may be perceived as increasing its impact to the player. This includes, but is not limited to, level of detail, close-ups, slow motion, lighting effects, perspective, and realism.

While the federal government makes decisions on the direction and specifications of these guidelines, it is the state and territory governments' role to ensure they are enforced. The National Classification Scheme took effect on January 1, 1996, as a result of recommendations made by the Law Reform Commission in 1991 with the goal of creating a nationwide approach to censorship.

The process of game classification is carried out by the OFLC using the National Classification Scheme and Classification Act as a framework on which to base its decisions. The Classification Review Board is a separate body responsible for the evaluation of decisions made by the OFLC including mediation of appeals by content submitters. Under section 5B of the Classification Act 1995, business, accounting, professional, scientific, and educational electronic titles are exempt from classification--everything else (which is essentially just games) must go through classification.


Duke Nukem 3D eventually made it to Aussie shelves after some content modifications.

In Australia, a process of self-regulation is in place, which means game publishers can effectively assign a classification rating to their own titles, with the OFLC rubber-stamping their decisions. There is a catch, however, as self-assessment can be carried out only on games which will receive G or PG ratings. Any game which could conceivably receive an M or MA15+ has to jump through more submission hoops.

Submission is broken into two separate strands: submissions by Authorised Assessors and nonauthorised Assessors. Authorised Assessors are usually game distributor employees who complete a one-day training course outlining the requirements of games submitted to be classified. The Authorised Assessors pass their judgment on a title's impact to the director of the OFLC board where it's taken into account during rating. Games submitted by nonauthorised assessors--those who have not completed the training--carry a price premium on their submission. A text-only summary of a game for an unrestricted M game attracts a A$2,040 fee. Adding a video of typical gameplay footage alongside your text will see the fee almost halved to A$1,150. In comparison, Authorised Assessors are looking at either an A$810 or A$630 fee for their rating depending on whether they supply text or a text-and-video synopsis of their MA15+ game. Providing more material to help the board make a decision lowers the payable cost of submission. Lower-impact unrestricted M game submissions are cheaper still, and cost A$430.

Demonstration of a game can be requested at any time by the OFLC at the submitter's expense. Live demonstrations cost A$1,070, and although an OFLC representative could not confirm an exact figure on the number of demonstration requests made for games, they did tell us they were "infrequent" and reserved for game submissions at the top end of the MA15+ rating scale.


Leave us a comment and let us know your thoughts on Australian video game classification.

198 Comments

  • Warlord2000

    Posted Sep 20, 2009 12:05 am PT

    Fascism plain and simple. And I hate it, no ones saying we should have total lack of censorship laws for things like pornography, we're talking about adults choosing or not choosing to view violent content. Without an R18 classification we risk moderately altered games, still with hugely violent content hitting shelves with a M15 classification and children who aren't old enough to legally drink, smoke, drive or have sex, purchasing it, with almost no point of sale restrictions. I've seen unaccompanied 11 year olds buy GTA titles, no questions asked. And the pathetic show pony attempts of politicians like our almost Nazi south Australian friend to communicate with the gaming community are laughable. Who in their right mind expects anonymous gamers in an open forum to behave like responsible adults, lets get some industry and retailer communication, and maybe form a group of intelligent mature gamers to discuss things, not random net trolls. The only way things change is if the people demand it, you can't hide the attitudes of these politicians, they're arrogant and pig headed, and most of all not listening to the community. Just look how the SA attorney General speaks and acts........its a sad state of affairs for a democracy to be in, that's for sure.

  • black_291

    Posted Sep 18, 2009 7:10 pm PT

    This is ridiculous. Controlling content is a matter that is indeed left up to the discretion of those who created the game or movie. It should not be left up to the state to interfere with the creativity of any game or movie, outside of a review suggesting prior knowledge of content. What people are exposed to is explicitly up to them and completely at their discretion. I noticed in the actual article relative to Left 4 Dead 2 the Australian Classification Board referred to the game as having "'the Infected' who are living humans infected with a rabies-like virus that causes them to act violently." Clearly this is a gross misuse of the wording for this video game. Clearly displayed all over the box of the original game appears the word zombie. A zombie is not a living person. "the body of a dead person given the semblance of life, but mute and will-less, by a supernatural force, usually for some evil purpose." This definition clearly indicates a lack of humanity, but an assimilation of it. Thus depriving one more issue of this "realistic" game. It is a crime to have to limit the populations imagination by limiting the abilities of the few creative people on this planet to establish a broader view of the world and its possibilities.

  • Lord_luke

    Posted Sep 17, 2009 10:35 am PT

    that makes no sense that NinjaGaiden can get in with heads poping off and Dark sector cant.

  • Darkfall_05

    Posted Apr 14, 2009 11:21 am PT

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/r18plus-game-classification-reform.html

    Thanks Tyrling for the heads up on the petition. Now only if every 18+ gamer in Australia would sign it, we might get somewhere.

    While I dont like having my name on there and my location, for public viewing. I think its required. I'm Australian, aged 26. And not just another user name on gamespot engaging in idle comments, that only promote the situation internally.

    * I have signed petitions previously regarding R18+, they didn't help because not enough people sign them. Why dont you sign this one and be done with it?
    So stand up, protest and sign the petition.
    Say "I have a bloody opinion too Mr Atkinson!"

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/r18plus-game-classification-reform.html

    To add the gopetition.com as a URL link in a comment. Enclose >
    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/r18plus-game-classification-reform.html
    with [url] the address without spaces [/url]

  • Shadow_Fire41

    Posted Mar 11, 2009 3:28 pm PT

    "Most parents would look at a game rated MA and think it can't be too bad since there is also a rating above it, used for rating the most extreme of content."
    now tell me, why are these parents allowed to have childern when they can't tell the difference between a Hanna Montanna (god, whoever introduced us to this talentless abomination.) game, and a AO game that involves god knows what, simply cause they think the ratings they know from movies, listen parents ALL games have a rating, its not like movies where the ones with the most graphic things you want to keep from your kid either don't have a rating or aren't sold in a god damn store.

    seriously, the amount of illiterate, mentally handicapped soccer moms in America alone disturbs me, but now i hear its more extreme in Australia, which is a free country, and many other countries have these kind of parents obsolutly scares me.

    we gamers have much to do to prevent this wide spread destruction.

    1. we need to cover every inch of the ocean with holy water (or just make the ocean holy the way they do it with holy water.) and throw Jack Thompson and other jackasses that tell parents this bull about games when they have NO EVIDENCE whatsoever.
    2. take the soccer moms kids away for about a week, and let the kids play any game they want from a collection of games, donated by gamers, retailers, internet sites, Gamefly (if they will help.), and whoever else, and then take them back to their parents, we will not take any kids with major mental disabilities or disorders, and show the parents that it doesn't make them go on a murderous rampage. (also, i just thought about this, the kids that did had to get a ****ing gun or something, where did they get ahold of those?)
    3. if the parents aren't satisfied of convinced, throw them into the holy water thing from number 1, if that doesn't work..............give up cause no one is gonna listen to them anyway.

  • Shadow_Fire41

    Posted Mar 11, 2009 2:46 pm PT

    ....................wow, i never thought i'd see a free country thats crazier about their ratingings than america and our dumbass, illiterate soccer moms and their false god Jack Thompson........i am very surprised.

    also,
    "i am all for free speech, as long as its rigidly under control."
    .............what? then is it really free speech then?
    i don't think so, sheesh, your as bad as Jack Thompson, and that horrifies me, for i didn't know there was someone as bad as him. (i exclude people who commit horride acts such as rape and murder from that statement.)

  • tawagivercetti

    Posted Jan 28, 2009 3:14 pm PT

    Its all about FUN. Did everybody forget that? If we took everything seriously we might turn out to be grumpy old fart face FUN-DEPRIVING politicians/censors. Raise your own kids.

  • ultra_mega_man

    Posted Jan 6, 2009 2:46 pm PT

    ps and as for torture being a bannable offence, can anyone tell me how punisher got through on the ps2 and xbox, some of those "interrogations" are pretty insanely brutal.

  • ultra_mega_man

    Posted Jan 6, 2009 2:44 pm PT

    the problem with the censors is that they still think that games are just for kids and as a game puts you in control of the character it becomes their choice to to burn that guy, or shoot that dog, or beat up and rob that random innocent npc on the street. This problem of choice is the sticking point for these censors as they think it can and will encourage impressionable youths the go out and perform these acts in public, and as we all know people have blamed their actions on games ie, that dude in england who killed a guy with a claw hammer cos he says he saw it in the original manhunt( i think that guy was 15 or 16 if anyone wants to confirm that???). while i can see why censors would be scared of things like this occurring, thats no reason to punish us gamers of which the average age is now over 25 atleast (it may be higher i cant remember) the censors need to realize that that industry and gamers as a community are all grown up now and grow up themselves.

  • UlTimatelee

    Posted Jan 6, 2009 4:30 am PT

    People carry on about censorship and what not. Have these ppl actually been to a Big W store or a Target and sent a 12 yr old in to buy a movie like Trainspotting? Ive been there and ive seen it- Young kids can go into ne department store and buy whateva movie they like. Do you think the 16yr old behind the counter is goin to stop them or even ask them for ID- i think not! These dumb politicians have no idea- to ban some games will do nothing- if someone, whateva age wants to see violence or an adult movie they will! If you want to censor things then bring it in 100% dont act all sloppy about it, blocking one entrance and leaving another open>? Thats what makes me so mad about this whole debate- Im sorry but id rather have a kid playing Silent hill - which is violent- but its not real- a feral half zombie dog or a dead nurse isnt goin to EVER cross paths with this person than have this kid goin into Target and buying a movie like Trainspotting or Romper stomper which deal with real life issues and real life violence! Get ur heads together poli's and make a choice- either tighten up everything or just dont be so old school and let us all have a choice on what we play!!

  • johnnyauau

    Posted Dec 20, 2008 4:50 am PT

    It's funny that Manhunt 2 for the Wii is not there, I do believe there will be a double standard. Nintendo is the rarest company that provides adults the entertainment they need. The only foul mouthed game on Nintendo is Scarface. Well, Michael Atkinson should really go out and ask the public instead of being old fashion and not going into the world of video games. Having adult rated games will save them the heart ache of knowing how much violence, gore, drugs and sex is really needed in a game.

    As a metaphor, the same could be said about the difference between American action movies and the Hong Kong action movies. Those who think Jackie Chan's action is too fast in Police Story can think again. Having macho guys fighting like slugs is total rubbish. Having high impact martial arts and stunt is what intices people into movies.

    Well if Michael Atkinson is gay its a different story but if anyone thinks I'm gay my response is "Not that there's anything wrong with that" (I'm a Seinfeld lover). If you want the best transition of comedy, watch Seinfeld. Who says watching Seinfeld is for kids?

  • sharpo77

    Posted Dec 17, 2008 3:09 am PT

    We got Gears of War 2 when FEAR 2 was banned for the same stuff. But thatnkfully they have a stinking, rotten heart to overturn it. Our government's crap. No wonder i'm a communist.

  • th1993tom

    Posted Dec 16, 2008 8:08 am PT

    In my libary i have a majority of 15/16 with quite a few 18s but i feel for u aussies as in the UK it's so easy to get up any rating Decapitations are banned?? COH is a 15 and artillerey strikes blow men into little pieces in the UK though having two rating systme is really retarted for us

  • sgtbulldog49

    Posted Oct 21, 2008 9:38 pm PT

    I played Duke Nukem 3D, Command and Conquer, Red alert, Doom, Quake, all before I was 10 years old. The amazing part? I grew up to be smart, balanced, and even timid at times. The problem is that parents don't want to take responsibility if they for some reason buy a game that is CLEARLY rated M or 15+ for violence, sex, or drugs, and they didnt take the time to read the rating

  • Andrew0824

    Posted Oct 17, 2008 4:34 pm PT

    Interesting article. I think the main problem is that politicians all over the world are cowards. None of them want to stick out their necks on a controversial issue to change the status quo. The status quo in Australia happens to be that there's no adult rating, but if it happened to be the same here in the US or in Europe, how many politicians would be willing to stand up agasint censorship to change the law? Not many, I'd bet.

    But you know that sooner or later the laws will change. It's inevitable. As recently as the 1960's some books were banned in the US. Videogames are a relatively new medium, so old politicians don't understand them. When they die out and are replaced with younger ones who've actually played games, things will change.

  • Leria

    Posted Oct 11, 2008 7:04 pm PT

    Slasher_101, the problem is that there is nothing to protect children from in here. Believe me when I say that I had nightmares from 5-6, before I ever saw a violent movie or game, that would have given Dante a run for his money.
    We need to realize that we are not protecting children from anything at all by refusing to allow these games into countries because we 'disagree' with them. Heck, I have played Doom since I was 11, and I am MORE non-violent than other people are, thinking that NO violence in real life is necessary unless someone uses physical violence against you first.

    But then again, adults and other children explained that to me VERY early in my life..... that is the problem with most of the children who do school shootings, kill other people, etc.: they have either been driven near or totally insane by harassment by other people and aren't in their right state of mind when they carry out their crimes, or their parents haven't done their jobs and told them that it is NEVER right to use physical violence against another person unless they use it against you or it is done in a sports ring, like a boxing ring.

  • Slasher_101

    Posted Oct 9, 2008 12:53 am PT

    It's ridiculous that those of us that are old enough to be considered to adults (allowed to drink, have sex and vote) are treated like little children when it comes to the games industry. The problem with the rating board is that they are restricted by miles of red tape laid down by conservative politicians (like Atkinson) that most certainly never played games before and therefore cannot make an informed decision. They make their decisions based on hearsay, only listening to the side of argument that appeals to them and not the masses. I feel restricted by this censorship board and believe that, being a democracy, the legislation should be ruled on by the people, not four or five politicians. The problem with the R18+ rating, if it will be passed, is that the same people rating the games today will be the ones rating the games tomorrow. In addition to asking for an R18+ rating there should also be a new board created solely for rating games. This will allow a fair analysis of each game coming into the country. Australia is far behind the world in terms of its rating system: South Africa (where I come from) has a R18+ rating and they do not censor content. The game distribution is controlled by the cashier where you have to produce proof of your age (Just my 2 cents). - 18 years old

    At Cafe_Anderson: Grow up into your age group. It's people like you that will give people like Michael Anderson more ammunition to use against games. However I guess it could also be argued that the rating in place today is insufficient to keep games that are actually meant for "adults" out of the reach of children people (like Atkinson) are trying to protect.

  • plodski2004

    Posted Sep 27, 2008 7:02 pm PT

    the problem with censorship is that double standards are created, i mean look at our film ratings and music ratings, they get R classifications so some bizarre reason ( i think since they are considered art by some) but when games are classified it seems that they are still seen as advanced versions of pong

    at my age i feel being limited to what i can purchase here in australia without having to look overseas is rather annoying since games like bioshock will feel empty without the drug content in it

  • ichtus

    Posted Sep 5, 2008 2:35 am PT

    I have this to say:
    I started to may way to be a gamer when I was just a kid abot 10 or so years old. First there was arcade machines and Commodore or ZH spectrum or PC, and I played Duke Nukem and similar games, and then there was NES for me. Even then I allways preferred fast paced action adventure or fighting games.
    Then came Sega Genesis and my favourite was Mortal Kombat series, which I play even today and I enjoyed some even more violent games like Splatterhouse and some other bloody-goodie, sadly, I cannot remembre the title for years.
    Then came PlayStation. Preferences: Quake II and lots of Survival Horror - Silent Hill in first place.
    Then came PlayStation 2. Preferences: Silent Hill series, Resident Evil series, The Suffering series, God Of War and other over-violent goodies.

    In between my gaming, I do listen to most extreme type of music - Brutal Death Metal or just Death Metal (bands like Morbid Angel, Prostitute Disfigurement, Bloody Gore, Burn Victim, Cephalotripsy, Sanatorium, etc), Black Metal (Anaal Nathrakh, Blut Aus Nord, Frosthardr, Gorgoroth, Immortal, Nokturnal Mortum, etc), Grind (Bowel Stew, Clotted Symmetric Sexual Organ, Last Days Of Humanity, Paracoccidioidomicosisproctitissarcomucosis), etc., and you know what - I never do start any fight, I don't use bad language in inapropriate socium, I do love my girlfriend, I do have all kinds of respect and I don't have any criminal record, and I do even work in government of my country.

    So, I dont really understand - what's all the censory is about. I spend my teen-years watching horror, and adult movies, playing horror and doing other censored stuff - does this affected me in bad ways, am I a bad person now, a criminal? No!

  • Cafe_Arson

    Posted Aug 19, 2008 12:48 am PT

    How about you just make the rating MA15+

    Meh I don't care if they bring in an R18+ rating, it's wont stop me from buying it.

    13 year old

  • Darkfall_05

    Posted Jul 13, 2008 7:23 am PT

    Please sign this petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/Rating18/petition.html

  • slimdavy55

    Posted Jul 12, 2008 11:58 am PT

    this is just bs how can we watch movies that are R rated but not play a game that's R rated im 22 for god sake let me play what i want

  • denaz

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 7:47 pm PT

    How can one person stand in the way. Michael Atkinson WE HATE YOU!

  • CellAnimation

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 2:57 pm PT

    1 word: Import

  • Fandangle

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 1:40 am PT

    Complaining to the OFLC, might make you feel better, however the lack of a R Rating for games is the work of SA Attorney-General Michael Atkinson. To get a R rating for games all A-G's need to agree, they all did except for Michael Atkinson. If you want to complain to someone Michael is the man.

  • smc_sewer

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 1:36 am PT

    Letters to the OFLC will get you nowhere.

    The big hurdle for us is the South Australian government who continues to block any amendment to rating system where all other states are all too happy to grant an R rating to bring us into line with the rest of the world.

    This has been going on for a while and gamespot has had reports(lots of them) in the past and they have mentioned thepersons name that has the call ,some attorney general so if letter should be sent to anyone it should be him.

  • axeman87

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 12:23 am PT

    Key points.
    1 - The average age of gamers are now 28, an R rating is a REQUIREMENT
    2 - Adults being treated as infants is insulting to Australians.
    3 - Compared to other developed countries that have an R rating, this is embarrassing for Australia. 4 - Adults have the right to choose, as long as it does not harm others or themselves.
    5 - More choice in ratings help parents to decide what content to show their children. 6 - The gameing industry now makes more $$$ than the movie industry. Having an R rating for movies but not games is evident that we have fallen behind the times with current media past times.

  • J_A_B_33

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 12:10 am PT

    I just sent the OFLC an email and i strongly suggest everyone who reads this forum does as well. just copy and paste OFLC into google to get to their website and send them an email and like axeman87 said don't act like a child and raise some strong arguments.

    Cheers

  • triplehrulz

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 12:03 am PT

    i wish the germans had captured australia in the 1940's so we would have an 18+ rating today. It would probably be better than what we have now. But seriously, i think that if we got enough people to support this cause, something would change, hopefully. As for now, i will be buying fallout 3 from the US

  • axeman87

    Posted Jul 9, 2008 8:04 pm PT

    I have submitted an email complaint to the OFLC about the lack of an R rating in Australia, and being treated like a child. Eveyone should do the same, so they know how many people in the Australian public think its BS. Swearing your head off won't help though, it will just confirm the idea that they think gamers are all kids. Put in an intelligent argument. C'mon guys, lets unite. Submit an email today. Its how change starts, it wont happen by itself.

  • Xarthadius

    Posted Jul 8, 2008 1:21 am PT

    censorship = police state

  • dn3datomiced

    Posted Jul 8, 2008 1:20 am PT

    That seems entirely excessive.

  • jumpnjackflash0

    Posted Jul 7, 2008 9:09 pm PT

    I'm more concerned with the prices australians have to pay for games. When its cheaper to import games from another country you know something is wrong with the local pricing of games.

  • DaDude253

    Posted Jul 5, 2008 7:52 pm PT

    you meen Soldier of fortune PAYBACK GS not II

  • RoboWizard

    Posted Jul 4, 2008 1:37 pm PT

    Censorship "for the good of all the children" is simply the modern justification for an ageless injustice. If we can't trust the parents of the world to keep media from causing harm to their children, then how can we trust parents to feed, educate, and raise their children at all?

  • crivman

    Posted Jul 4, 2008 6:34 am PT

    Ive been buying games since I was 8 (now 20) and Ive never really had a problem getting hold of the "adult" ones ... the rating system is pointless as usually its ignored or those children that really want a game will find a way round it. I think its the same with films and TV shows ... even parents that think they are controlling what their child sees wont know the half of what their children have seen. IMO the important thing is that the parents should be teaching the child not to treat the game as real life ( or vice versa ) and the only real way to do that is to join in with the games their child plays and introduce the more "adult" games to their children themselves in a more controlled way so that they can actually judge the reaction the child has (will it cause them to become violent etc). My parents did this for me with films ( I watched 15s when I was 6 or 7 for instance with my dad) and it helped me understand that it was for enjoyment and not something to copy.

  • necronaux

    Posted Jul 1, 2008 10:36 am PT

    How old are the people making these decisions? What is their background? Have they even played any of these games? Limiting or preventing minors access to 'adult' contact is understandable, but an out right ban, why haven't the adults donesomething?

  • wallaz

    Posted May 10, 2008 9:25 pm PT

    buuuu i dont like u muahahhahahaha

  • sauron901

    Posted May 7, 2008 5:02 am PT

    no point in banning just introduce a R rating, but still teenagers will still play games like gta4 no matter what happens since im 1, u can be suprised on what teens can do but not many would go around killing people and causin violence because they wanna be gangstas from gta or something!

  • The_ripster88

    Posted May 6, 2008 6:27 pm PT

    If there is any psychopaths out there thinking to shoot up a school or something (looking at u's yanks) cause ur mum didn’t give u enough attention please throw away all your violent games before hand so we don’t get the back lash of ur pathetic excuse for a life... peace

  • walker1846

    Posted May 6, 2008 5:54 am PT

    i am 16 years old and the first time i played a video game was when i was 3, the first time i played GTA i was about 10 and i havent turned into some phsychopath but we do need the R18 rating as young kids that get exposed to GTA or any other violent game such as gears it can really affect them so the stupid dicheads at the OFLC should bring it in it would benefit everyone in this country and in all reality the parents are responsible for their kids mental safety.

  • trenno2529

    Posted May 6, 2008 3:33 am PT

    if u care that u cant interact with hookers in gta4, u r a dead set loser.

  • Aqua-Vitae

    Posted May 6, 2008 2:16 am PT

    Petitioning your local member of (Federal) Parliament is probably the most effective way of getting action on this issue. Unfortunately with the federal election having just recently taken place, politicians aren't as eager to take on board issues like this. Approaching MP's in marginal seats will likely get a better response, particularly if there is a large youth-demographic in that electorate. As the Attourney-General, the OFLC, etc are all subservient to the will of Parliament, raising parliamentary awareness of this issue is likely to bring about the swiftest change.

  • _Greywolf_

    Posted May 5, 2008 9:20 pm PT

    When will the censorship board stop trying to bubblewrap society. The only thing that comes out of banning a game is damage to the right of freedom of speech. What comes next? Will they try to ban games because they have a different point of view? Hell they already tried that with bully and were partially sucsessful in getting its name changed not to mention classifing it as MA15. Bring on th R18 classification and stop trying to ban or tone down our games. You wouldnt tell Michalangelo's david to put on some jeans.

  • riley_mii

    Posted May 5, 2008 8:47 pm PT

    I have been playing games since i was about 6 and have been playing GTA games since i was 10 im a christian and i have neva been affected by violent games you have to be retarted to not know the difference between shooting someone on a game and in real life let the R18+ games in

  • strawberry9

    Posted May 5, 2008 6:38 pm PT

    If somebody is influenced to commit crimes because he played a game that had crimes in it... that person was probably messed up in the first place...

  • LURCH87

    Posted May 5, 2008 10:59 am PT

    ratings dont matter i was getting mature games before i hit double digits. i was raised good so i know not to go shoot up a city because i played a violent game.

  • Joril

    Posted May 5, 2008 10:36 am PT

    Isn't the Australian government doing this? Don't the people of Australia get to elect their government?
    This censoring sucks a big one, but next time: do vote or vote for some one else.

  • cichy69

    Posted May 5, 2008 8:47 am PT

    @tenno2529

    wow you went from 15 to 16 years old, in 6 minutes :] lol

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Censory Overload: An in-depth look at Australian video game classification

GameSpot AU's in-depth look at Australian video game classification.

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