In the first part of Censory Overload, we dissected and discussed the current games classification system in Australia, the hoops developers and publishers need to jump through, and the titles unlucky enough to have gotten the big red "banned" stamp in the past. So now that you get how the system works down under--as well as what happens to titles that don't meet the classification guidelines--it's time to ask: Why is it that a nation such as Australia doesn't have a mature rating for games? And how does our games classification system compare to the rest of world? Read on to find out more in Part Two of Censory Overload.

Ask most people who oppose the introduction of an R18+ rating for games in Australia why they have that position and they'll likely say it's because children must be protected from inappropriate content. This point of view, of course, assumes that most gamers are children, a stereotype which has been disproven by many studies. One of the most recent Australian studies, "Interactive Australia 2007", a survey conducted by Bond University in Queensland, found through a random sampling of more than 1600 participants from households across Australia that the average of an Aussie gamer is now 28 years old. Eight percent of the total number of gamers surveyed were 60 years or older. From current data it is predicted that by 2014 the average gamer age will be 42 years old. The survey also found that over a third of Australian gamers are parents.


The average age of the Australian gamers is 28-years-old.

Ron Curry, CEO of the Interactive Entertainment Association of Australia (IEAA)--an organisation which represents all major Australian-based game publishers--says government policy is to blame for the lack of a local R18+ rating. "Essentially, the bottleneck at the moment is the acceptance unanimously by the state and territory attorneys-general... from what I'm hearing the only objection so far I've heard is from South Australia," Curry said. "I think in the past (and hopefully this is slowly changing) Parliament [was] controlled by a generation who [didn't] understand the whole medium we're in. They don't understand video gaming. We have had attorneys-general in the past who have said 'games are for kids', so part of our responsibility as an association is to keep delivering the message that it's interactive entertainment, not games, and it's not just for kids. Our audience is way older than that, and way more mature."

As covered in Part One of Censory Overload, all of Australia's various federal, state, and territory attorneys-general must all agree before an R18+ rating for games is introduced down under. A long time opponent of such an introduction is South Australian Attorney-General and Minister for Justice and Multicultural Affairs, Michael Atkinson. While the minister was unavailable for comment for this feature, his most recent parliamentary statement on the issue offers a less than optimistic view for gamers hoping he may yet change his mind on the issue. "I do not want children to be able to get their hands on R18+ games easily. I understand that the lack of an R18+ classification denies some adults the chance to play some games, however, the need to keep potentially harmful material away from children is far more important," Atkinson said.

"There are not adequate safeguards that can properly protect our children from those disturbing scenes and I know how computer-literate they are. Like other parents in Australia, I want to try to protect children from being able to access computer-generated pornography and violence."

Rather than simply dismiss the "protect our children" mantra as a little more than a scapegoat defense, the IEAA's Ron Curry believes the South Australian Minister's statement should serve as an opportunity for all parties to reflect on the issues at hand. "Everybody along that cycle has responsibility. Publishers have a responsibility to make sure they're displaying the R18+ classification that we're classifying correctly, and the government has the responsibility to ensure legislation is in place that can enforce the sale of R18+ to the right group of people. Enforcement has to be in place; retailers have to be responsible about who they sell it to, and ultimately parents need to understand the content their children are watching or playing as they should with TV, Internet, DVD, and publications," he said.

While one of the main effects of the possible introduction of an R18+ rating in Australia will be an open recognition that gamers aren't just young children anymore, Curry also says it will further empower those wanting to keep young people away from inappropriate content. Curry says that despite the high proportion of adult gamers--so many of which play alongside their children--the vast majority admitted to being confused by the difference between M and MA15+ rated titles. "The average age is 28 and the industry needs to start catering for the more mature consumer," Curry said. "We need to treat them like adults and give them the broad choice of entertainment they're looking for. That's not necessarily more sex or violence: what it is, is more adult-themed gaming. We think it [the introduction of R18+] gives parents a better clue, it gives them the full toolkit so they know exactly what media their children have got and what that classification means."


IEAA's Ron Curry says an R18+ rating will further clarify the classification scheme for parents buying games for their children

Introducing an R18+ rating will mean fewer banned games, which in turn will lead to less piracy, Curry says. "I think you'll find, and certainly [this is evident] in the research being done in the UK, when a game is refused classification or banned there is a spike in piracy for that game. Our concern is that if a game is refused classification in Australia kids are going to get it some other way, they're going to download it off the internet and then they'll burn it and share it with friends. We'd rather a game that's R18+ be on shelves with a sticker so parents understand what the content is," Curry said.

While it may seem like the Aussie national classification in its current incarnation for video games is nothing but doom and gloom, the results of the latest Standing Committee of Attorneys-General meeting (held on March 28, 2008) offers a glimmer of hope for Australian gamers. The meeting was the first of its kind to discuss the viability of an R18+ rating for games since 2005, and prompted Victorian Deputy Premier and Attorney General Rob Hulls later on to say that in their current form, Australian classification laws were "out of step" with the remainder of the developed world". "It seems inconsistent that in Australia, adults are allowed to view 'adult only' films which have been classified R18+ by the Classification Board, but not computer games with an equivalent high-level content," he said in a statement. "With the increasing convergence between films and games, the different approach to classification principles is difficult to sustain."

While the Federal Government has yet to make up its mind or take a formal stance on whether it is supportive of the introduction of a restricted 18+ rating for games, it did announce that it will soon call for public opinion on the issue. No plans have yet been announced outlining how exactly community attitudes will be gauged. While a review of the current system and the introduction of the often publicly requested R18+ rating may still be some way off, this does represent a step in the right direction towards a more complete and informative rating guide for gamers and parents.

"Censorship in any form is the enemy of creativity, since it cuts off the life blood of creativity: ideas."--Allan Jenkins

Comparing Australia with the world

Australia is known globally for its tough stance on video game censorship, but how do we really compare to other nations when it comes to limiting game freedom? Do we Australians deserve the reputation we currently have for being video game prudes?

A quick comparison between our system and those found in other developed nations such as North America, Japan, the United Kingdom, and the rest of Europe confirms what many have long suspected—ours is the only one that doesn't have a rating for adult-themed games. All of the countries mentioned above have their own system, each with its own subtle nuances, age differences, and guidelines on the suitability of games. But each also acknowledges the need to classify adult content for adult gamers. Let's take a look at how our neighbours to the north works when it comes to rubber stamping new releases.


One prefecture in Japan took a particular dislike to Grand Theft Auto III.

Japan's Computer Entertainment Rating Organization (CERO) was established in 2002 as a branch of the nation's Computer Entertainment Supplier's Association (CESA). The early '90s also saw the formation of the Ethics Organization of Computer Software (EOCS), a group started by the country's adult entertainment industry to help regulate primarily adult-themed games. CERO and EOCS happily coexist as their content does not overlap. Like Europe's cross-region classification system PEGI, submission to the EOCS board for rating is voluntary, but its uptake by publishers is high for fear of Japanese retailers refusing to sell unrated software. EOCS is responsible for the censorship of content depicting sex acts and the display of genitals--acts frowned upon in Japanese media. Content is usually digitally obscured accordingly. Although CERO and EOCS do similar jobs in different categories, they do not use the same rating markings on packaging to indicate the suitability of content to consumers. EOCS has a streamlined three tier rating system which includes a "general" category suitable to all ages, "restricted" for viewers 15 or over only, and "18+", the highest of the three and restricted to those olden than 18 years. CERO ratings, on the other hand, have a five-tiered categorisation system. The EOCS ages are represented in the system, but CERO also fills the gaps on either side with the option of two additional categories. The different ratings are represented by letters, with A giving purchasers an indication the product is suitable for all ages. B for 12 or older players, C is ages 15 plus, D is 17 or higher, and the maximum Z rating is restricted to those over 18 years. Z ratings are also the only ones to be regulated by the government.

Despite Japan's entertainment industry being classified by two voluntary, non-government-run rating systems, the country has had only several minor brushes with game censorship. In 2005, the Kanagawa prefecture imposed a self ban on Grand Theft Auto III describing it as a "harmful publication". Other prefectures considered a similar move, but rather than require government intervention, the Japanese games industry, through CESA, re-evaluated the then current policy, and as a result two more rating categories were introduced.

The United States of America is the world's largest gaming market, often taking in excess of US$1 billion worth of retail game sales per calendar month. Like Japan, game classification is self-assessed, with ratings approved by an industry group. The Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) is an offshoot of the Entertainment Software Association (ESA) and began operating in 1994 with the sole purpose of classifying games. Because of its recognition by consumers, very few publishers do not submit under the voluntary process (even though it's not a legal requirement to do so). US software retailers continue to shy away from carrying unrated titles on their shelves, forcing a level playing field for publishers and helping give consumers fair warning of content they may purchase.


Manhunt 2 was initially given an AO rating in the US.

The ESRB offers a multi-tiered rating system, with scope for titles from EC (early childhood), E for everyone aged 3 plus, E10 for viewers 10 or over, T (teen) 13 and up, and M (mature) for those over 17. The ESRB also has provision for an AO adults only rating, which is (not surprisingly) reserved for adult titles and includes graphic violence or depictions of sex. While the AO rating can be given to a game, Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo do not allow games with the rating to be published on their consoles. Many US retailers also refuse to stock the adult titles. This maximum rating has been issued sparingly in the ESRB's rating history, with the most recent recipient being Rockstar Games' Manhunt 2 in 2007, which was later re-evaluated and rated M.

198 Comments

  • Warlord2000

    Posted Sep 20, 2009 12:05 am PT

    Fascism plain and simple. And I hate it, no ones saying we should have total lack of censorship laws for things like pornography, we're talking about adults choosing or not choosing to view violent content. Without an R18 classification we risk moderately altered games, still with hugely violent content hitting shelves with a M15 classification and children who aren't old enough to legally drink, smoke, drive or have sex, purchasing it, with almost no point of sale restrictions. I've seen unaccompanied 11 year olds buy GTA titles, no questions asked. And the pathetic show pony attempts of politicians like our almost Nazi south Australian friend to communicate with the gaming community are laughable. Who in their right mind expects anonymous gamers in an open forum to behave like responsible adults, lets get some industry and retailer communication, and maybe form a group of intelligent mature gamers to discuss things, not random net trolls. The only way things change is if the people demand it, you can't hide the attitudes of these politicians, they're arrogant and pig headed, and most of all not listening to the community. Just look how the SA attorney General speaks and acts........its a sad state of affairs for a democracy to be in, that's for sure.

  • black_291

    Posted Sep 18, 2009 7:10 pm PT

    This is ridiculous. Controlling content is a matter that is indeed left up to the discretion of those who created the game or movie. It should not be left up to the state to interfere with the creativity of any game or movie, outside of a review suggesting prior knowledge of content. What people are exposed to is explicitly up to them and completely at their discretion. I noticed in the actual article relative to Left 4 Dead 2 the Australian Classification Board referred to the game as having "'the Infected' who are living humans infected with a rabies-like virus that causes them to act violently." Clearly this is a gross misuse of the wording for this video game. Clearly displayed all over the box of the original game appears the word zombie. A zombie is not a living person. "the body of a dead person given the semblance of life, but mute and will-less, by a supernatural force, usually for some evil purpose." This definition clearly indicates a lack of humanity, but an assimilation of it. Thus depriving one more issue of this "realistic" game. It is a crime to have to limit the populations imagination by limiting the abilities of the few creative people on this planet to establish a broader view of the world and its possibilities.

  • Lord_luke

    Posted Sep 17, 2009 10:35 am PT

    that makes no sense that NinjaGaiden can get in with heads poping off and Dark sector cant.

  • Darkfall_05

    Posted Apr 14, 2009 11:21 am PT

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/r18plus-game-classification-reform.html

    Thanks Tyrling for the heads up on the petition. Now only if every 18+ gamer in Australia would sign it, we might get somewhere.

    While I dont like having my name on there and my location, for public viewing. I think its required. I'm Australian, aged 26. And not just another user name on gamespot engaging in idle comments, that only promote the situation internally.

    * I have signed petitions previously regarding R18+, they didn't help because not enough people sign them. Why dont you sign this one and be done with it?
    So stand up, protest and sign the petition.
    Say "I have a bloody opinion too Mr Atkinson!"

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/r18plus-game-classification-reform.html

    To add the gopetition.com as a URL link in a comment. Enclose >
    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/r18plus-game-classification-reform.html
    with [url] the address without spaces [/url]

  • Shadow_Fire41

    Posted Mar 11, 2009 3:28 pm PT

    "Most parents would look at a game rated MA and think it can't be too bad since there is also a rating above it, used for rating the most extreme of content."
    now tell me, why are these parents allowed to have childern when they can't tell the difference between a Hanna Montanna (god, whoever introduced us to this talentless abomination.) game, and a AO game that involves god knows what, simply cause they think the ratings they know from movies, listen parents ALL games have a rating, its not like movies where the ones with the most graphic things you want to keep from your kid either don't have a rating or aren't sold in a god damn store.

    seriously, the amount of illiterate, mentally handicapped soccer moms in America alone disturbs me, but now i hear its more extreme in Australia, which is a free country, and many other countries have these kind of parents obsolutly scares me.

    we gamers have much to do to prevent this wide spread destruction.

    1. we need to cover every inch of the ocean with holy water (or just make the ocean holy the way they do it with holy water.) and throw Jack Thompson and other jackasses that tell parents this bull about games when they have NO EVIDENCE whatsoever.
    2. take the soccer moms kids away for about a week, and let the kids play any game they want from a collection of games, donated by gamers, retailers, internet sites, Gamefly (if they will help.), and whoever else, and then take them back to their parents, we will not take any kids with major mental disabilities or disorders, and show the parents that it doesn't make them go on a murderous rampage. (also, i just thought about this, the kids that did had to get a ****ing gun or something, where did they get ahold of those?)
    3. if the parents aren't satisfied of convinced, throw them into the holy water thing from number 1, if that doesn't work..............give up cause no one is gonna listen to them anyway.

  • Shadow_Fire41

    Posted Mar 11, 2009 2:46 pm PT

    ....................wow, i never thought i'd see a free country thats crazier about their ratingings than america and our dumbass, illiterate soccer moms and their false god Jack Thompson........i am very surprised.

    also,
    "i am all for free speech, as long as its rigidly under control."
    .............what? then is it really free speech then?
    i don't think so, sheesh, your as bad as Jack Thompson, and that horrifies me, for i didn't know there was someone as bad as him. (i exclude people who commit horride acts such as rape and murder from that statement.)

  • tawagivercetti

    Posted Jan 28, 2009 3:14 pm PT

    Its all about FUN. Did everybody forget that? If we took everything seriously we might turn out to be grumpy old fart face FUN-DEPRIVING politicians/censors. Raise your own kids.

  • ultra_mega_man

    Posted Jan 6, 2009 2:46 pm PT

    ps and as for torture being a bannable offence, can anyone tell me how punisher got through on the ps2 and xbox, some of those "interrogations" are pretty insanely brutal.

  • ultra_mega_man

    Posted Jan 6, 2009 2:44 pm PT

    the problem with the censors is that they still think that games are just for kids and as a game puts you in control of the character it becomes their choice to to burn that guy, or shoot that dog, or beat up and rob that random innocent npc on the street. This problem of choice is the sticking point for these censors as they think it can and will encourage impressionable youths the go out and perform these acts in public, and as we all know people have blamed their actions on games ie, that dude in england who killed a guy with a claw hammer cos he says he saw it in the original manhunt( i think that guy was 15 or 16 if anyone wants to confirm that???). while i can see why censors would be scared of things like this occurring, thats no reason to punish us gamers of which the average age is now over 25 atleast (it may be higher i cant remember) the censors need to realize that that industry and gamers as a community are all grown up now and grow up themselves.

  • UlTimatelee

    Posted Jan 6, 2009 4:30 am PT

    People carry on about censorship and what not. Have these ppl actually been to a Big W store or a Target and sent a 12 yr old in to buy a movie like Trainspotting? Ive been there and ive seen it- Young kids can go into ne department store and buy whateva movie they like. Do you think the 16yr old behind the counter is goin to stop them or even ask them for ID- i think not! These dumb politicians have no idea- to ban some games will do nothing- if someone, whateva age wants to see violence or an adult movie they will! If you want to censor things then bring it in 100% dont act all sloppy about it, blocking one entrance and leaving another open>? Thats what makes me so mad about this whole debate- Im sorry but id rather have a kid playing Silent hill - which is violent- but its not real- a feral half zombie dog or a dead nurse isnt goin to EVER cross paths with this person than have this kid goin into Target and buying a movie like Trainspotting or Romper stomper which deal with real life issues and real life violence! Get ur heads together poli's and make a choice- either tighten up everything or just dont be so old school and let us all have a choice on what we play!!

  • johnnyauau

    Posted Dec 20, 2008 4:50 am PT

    It's funny that Manhunt 2 for the Wii is not there, I do believe there will be a double standard. Nintendo is the rarest company that provides adults the entertainment they need. The only foul mouthed game on Nintendo is Scarface. Well, Michael Atkinson should really go out and ask the public instead of being old fashion and not going into the world of video games. Having adult rated games will save them the heart ache of knowing how much violence, gore, drugs and sex is really needed in a game.

    As a metaphor, the same could be said about the difference between American action movies and the Hong Kong action movies. Those who think Jackie Chan's action is too fast in Police Story can think again. Having macho guys fighting like slugs is total rubbish. Having high impact martial arts and stunt is what intices people into movies.

    Well if Michael Atkinson is gay its a different story but if anyone thinks I'm gay my response is "Not that there's anything wrong with that" (I'm a Seinfeld lover). If you want the best transition of comedy, watch Seinfeld. Who says watching Seinfeld is for kids?

  • sharpo77

    Posted Dec 17, 2008 3:09 am PT

    We got Gears of War 2 when FEAR 2 was banned for the same stuff. But thatnkfully they have a stinking, rotten heart to overturn it. Our government's crap. No wonder i'm a communist.

  • th1993tom

    Posted Dec 16, 2008 8:08 am PT

    In my libary i have a majority of 15/16 with quite a few 18s but i feel for u aussies as in the UK it's so easy to get up any rating Decapitations are banned?? COH is a 15 and artillerey strikes blow men into little pieces in the UK though having two rating systme is really retarted for us

  • sgtbulldog49

    Posted Oct 21, 2008 9:38 pm PT

    I played Duke Nukem 3D, Command and Conquer, Red alert, Doom, Quake, all before I was 10 years old. The amazing part? I grew up to be smart, balanced, and even timid at times. The problem is that parents don't want to take responsibility if they for some reason buy a game that is CLEARLY rated M or 15+ for violence, sex, or drugs, and they didnt take the time to read the rating

  • Andrew0824

    Posted Oct 17, 2008 4:34 pm PT

    Interesting article. I think the main problem is that politicians all over the world are cowards. None of them want to stick out their necks on a controversial issue to change the status quo. The status quo in Australia happens to be that there's no adult rating, but if it happened to be the same here in the US or in Europe, how many politicians would be willing to stand up agasint censorship to change the law? Not many, I'd bet.

    But you know that sooner or later the laws will change. It's inevitable. As recently as the 1960's some books were banned in the US. Videogames are a relatively new medium, so old politicians don't understand them. When they die out and are replaced with younger ones who've actually played games, things will change.

  • Leria

    Posted Oct 11, 2008 7:04 pm PT

    Slasher_101, the problem is that there is nothing to protect children from in here. Believe me when I say that I had nightmares from 5-6, before I ever saw a violent movie or game, that would have given Dante a run for his money.
    We need to realize that we are not protecting children from anything at all by refusing to allow these games into countries because we 'disagree' with them. Heck, I have played Doom since I was 11, and I am MORE non-violent than other people are, thinking that NO violence in real life is necessary unless someone uses physical violence against you first.

    But then again, adults and other children explained that to me VERY early in my life..... that is the problem with most of the children who do school shootings, kill other people, etc.: they have either been driven near or totally insane by harassment by other people and aren't in their right state of mind when they carry out their crimes, or their parents haven't done their jobs and told them that it is NEVER right to use physical violence against another person unless they use it against you or it is done in a sports ring, like a boxing ring.

  • Slasher_101

    Posted Oct 9, 2008 12:53 am PT

    It's ridiculous that those of us that are old enough to be considered to adults (allowed to drink, have sex and vote) are treated like little children when it comes to the games industry. The problem with the rating board is that they are restricted by miles of red tape laid down by conservative politicians (like Atkinson) that most certainly never played games before and therefore cannot make an informed decision. They make their decisions based on hearsay, only listening to the side of argument that appeals to them and not the masses. I feel restricted by this censorship board and believe that, being a democracy, the legislation should be ruled on by the people, not four or five politicians. The problem with the R18+ rating, if it will be passed, is that the same people rating the games today will be the ones rating the games tomorrow. In addition to asking for an R18+ rating there should also be a new board created solely for rating games. This will allow a fair analysis of each game coming into the country. Australia is far behind the world in terms of its rating system: South Africa (where I come from) has a R18+ rating and they do not censor content. The game distribution is controlled by the cashier where you have to produce proof of your age (Just my 2 cents). - 18 years old

    At Cafe_Anderson: Grow up into your age group. It's people like you that will give people like Michael Anderson more ammunition to use against games. However I guess it could also be argued that the rating in place today is insufficient to keep games that are actually meant for "adults" out of the reach of children people (like Atkinson) are trying to protect.

  • plodski2004

    Posted Sep 27, 2008 7:02 pm PT

    the problem with censorship is that double standards are created, i mean look at our film ratings and music ratings, they get R classifications so some bizarre reason ( i think since they are considered art by some) but when games are classified it seems that they are still seen as advanced versions of pong

    at my age i feel being limited to what i can purchase here in australia without having to look overseas is rather annoying since games like bioshock will feel empty without the drug content in it

  • ichtus

    Posted Sep 5, 2008 2:35 am PT

    I have this to say:
    I started to may way to be a gamer when I was just a kid abot 10 or so years old. First there was arcade machines and Commodore or ZH spectrum or PC, and I played Duke Nukem and similar games, and then there was NES for me. Even then I allways preferred fast paced action adventure or fighting games.
    Then came Sega Genesis and my favourite was Mortal Kombat series, which I play even today and I enjoyed some even more violent games like Splatterhouse and some other bloody-goodie, sadly, I cannot remembre the title for years.
    Then came PlayStation. Preferences: Quake II and lots of Survival Horror - Silent Hill in first place.
    Then came PlayStation 2. Preferences: Silent Hill series, Resident Evil series, The Suffering series, God Of War and other over-violent goodies.

    In between my gaming, I do listen to most extreme type of music - Brutal Death Metal or just Death Metal (bands like Morbid Angel, Prostitute Disfigurement, Bloody Gore, Burn Victim, Cephalotripsy, Sanatorium, etc), Black Metal (Anaal Nathrakh, Blut Aus Nord, Frosthardr, Gorgoroth, Immortal, Nokturnal Mortum, etc), Grind (Bowel Stew, Clotted Symmetric Sexual Organ, Last Days Of Humanity, Paracoccidioidomicosisproctitissarcomucosis), etc., and you know what - I never do start any fight, I don't use bad language in inapropriate socium, I do love my girlfriend, I do have all kinds of respect and I don't have any criminal record, and I do even work in government of my country.

    So, I dont really understand - what's all the censory is about. I spend my teen-years watching horror, and adult movies, playing horror and doing other censored stuff - does this affected me in bad ways, am I a bad person now, a criminal? No!

  • Cafe_Arson

    Posted Aug 19, 2008 12:48 am PT

    How about you just make the rating MA15+

    Meh I don't care if they bring in an R18+ rating, it's wont stop me from buying it.

    13 year old

  • Darkfall_05

    Posted Jul 13, 2008 7:23 am PT

    Please sign this petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/Rating18/petition.html

  • slimdavy55

    Posted Jul 12, 2008 11:58 am PT

    this is just bs how can we watch movies that are R rated but not play a game that's R rated im 22 for god sake let me play what i want

  • denaz

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 7:47 pm PT

    How can one person stand in the way. Michael Atkinson WE HATE YOU!

  • CellAnimation

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 2:57 pm PT

    1 word: Import

  • Fandangle

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 1:40 am PT

    Complaining to the OFLC, might make you feel better, however the lack of a R Rating for games is the work of SA Attorney-General Michael Atkinson. To get a R rating for games all A-G's need to agree, they all did except for Michael Atkinson. If you want to complain to someone Michael is the man.

  • smc_sewer

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 1:36 am PT

    Letters to the OFLC will get you nowhere.

    The big hurdle for us is the South Australian government who continues to block any amendment to rating system where all other states are all too happy to grant an R rating to bring us into line with the rest of the world.

    This has been going on for a while and gamespot has had reports(lots of them) in the past and they have mentioned thepersons name that has the call ,some attorney general so if letter should be sent to anyone it should be him.

  • axeman87

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 12:23 am PT

    Key points.
    1 - The average age of gamers are now 28, an R rating is a REQUIREMENT
    2 - Adults being treated as infants is insulting to Australians.
    3 - Compared to other developed countries that have an R rating, this is embarrassing for Australia. 4 - Adults have the right to choose, as long as it does not harm others or themselves.
    5 - More choice in ratings help parents to decide what content to show their children. 6 - The gameing industry now makes more $$$ than the movie industry. Having an R rating for movies but not games is evident that we have fallen behind the times with current media past times.

  • J_A_B_33

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 12:10 am PT

    I just sent the OFLC an email and i strongly suggest everyone who reads this forum does as well. just copy and paste OFLC into google to get to their website and send them an email and like axeman87 said don't act like a child and raise some strong arguments.

    Cheers

  • triplehrulz

    Posted Jul 10, 2008 12:03 am PT

    i wish the germans had captured australia in the 1940's so we would have an 18+ rating today. It would probably be better than what we have now. But seriously, i think that if we got enough people to support this cause, something would change, hopefully. As for now, i will be buying fallout 3 from the US

  • axeman87

    Posted Jul 9, 2008 8:04 pm PT

    I have submitted an email complaint to the OFLC about the lack of an R rating in Australia, and being treated like a child. Eveyone should do the same, so they know how many people in the Australian public think its BS. Swearing your head off won't help though, it will just confirm the idea that they think gamers are all kids. Put in an intelligent argument. C'mon guys, lets unite. Submit an email today. Its how change starts, it wont happen by itself.

  • Xarthadius

    Posted Jul 8, 2008 1:21 am PT

    censorship = police state

  • dn3datomiced

    Posted Jul 8, 2008 1:20 am PT

    That seems entirely excessive.

  • jumpnjackflash0

    Posted Jul 7, 2008 9:09 pm PT

    I'm more concerned with the prices australians have to pay for games. When its cheaper to import games from another country you know something is wrong with the local pricing of games.

  • DaDude253

    Posted Jul 5, 2008 7:52 pm PT

    you meen Soldier of fortune PAYBACK GS not II

  • RoboWizard

    Posted Jul 4, 2008 1:37 pm PT

    Censorship "for the good of all the children" is simply the modern justification for an ageless injustice. If we can't trust the parents of the world to keep media from causing harm to their children, then how can we trust parents to feed, educate, and raise their children at all?

  • crivman

    Posted Jul 4, 2008 6:34 am PT

    Ive been buying games since I was 8 (now 20) and Ive never really had a problem getting hold of the "adult" ones ... the rating system is pointless as usually its ignored or those children that really want a game will find a way round it. I think its the same with films and TV shows ... even parents that think they are controlling what their child sees wont know the half of what their children have seen. IMO the important thing is that the parents should be teaching the child not to treat the game as real life ( or vice versa ) and the only real way to do that is to join in with the games their child plays and introduce the more "adult" games to their children themselves in a more controlled way so that they can actually judge the reaction the child has (will it cause them to become violent etc). My parents did this for me with films ( I watched 15s when I was 6 or 7 for instance with my dad) and it helped me understand that it was for enjoyment and not something to copy.

  • necronaux

    Posted Jul 1, 2008 10:36 am PT

    How old are the people making these decisions? What is their background? Have they even played any of these games? Limiting or preventing minors access to 'adult' contact is understandable, but an out right ban, why haven't the adults donesomething?

  • wallaz

    Posted May 10, 2008 9:25 pm PT

    buuuu i dont like u muahahhahahaha

  • sauron901

    Posted May 7, 2008 5:02 am PT

    no point in banning just introduce a R rating, but still teenagers will still play games like gta4 no matter what happens since im 1, u can be suprised on what teens can do but not many would go around killing people and causin violence because they wanna be gangstas from gta or something!

  • The_ripster88

    Posted May 6, 2008 6:27 pm PT

    If there is any psychopaths out there thinking to shoot up a school or something (looking at u's yanks) cause ur mum didn’t give u enough attention please throw away all your violent games before hand so we don’t get the back lash of ur pathetic excuse for a life... peace

  • walker1846

    Posted May 6, 2008 5:54 am PT

    i am 16 years old and the first time i played a video game was when i was 3, the first time i played GTA i was about 10 and i havent turned into some phsychopath but we do need the R18 rating as young kids that get exposed to GTA or any other violent game such as gears it can really affect them so the stupid dicheads at the OFLC should bring it in it would benefit everyone in this country and in all reality the parents are responsible for their kids mental safety.

  • trenno2529

    Posted May 6, 2008 3:33 am PT

    if u care that u cant interact with hookers in gta4, u r a dead set loser.

  • Aqua-Vitae

    Posted May 6, 2008 2:16 am PT

    Petitioning your local member of (Federal) Parliament is probably the most effective way of getting action on this issue. Unfortunately with the federal election having just recently taken place, politicians aren't as eager to take on board issues like this. Approaching MP's in marginal seats will likely get a better response, particularly if there is a large youth-demographic in that electorate. As the Attourney-General, the OFLC, etc are all subservient to the will of Parliament, raising parliamentary awareness of this issue is likely to bring about the swiftest change.

  • _Greywolf_

    Posted May 5, 2008 9:20 pm PT

    When will the censorship board stop trying to bubblewrap society. The only thing that comes out of banning a game is damage to the right of freedom of speech. What comes next? Will they try to ban games because they have a different point of view? Hell they already tried that with bully and were partially sucsessful in getting its name changed not to mention classifing it as MA15. Bring on th R18 classification and stop trying to ban or tone down our games. You wouldnt tell Michalangelo's david to put on some jeans.

  • riley_mii

    Posted May 5, 2008 8:47 pm PT

    I have been playing games since i was about 6 and have been playing GTA games since i was 10 im a christian and i have neva been affected by violent games you have to be retarted to not know the difference between shooting someone on a game and in real life let the R18+ games in

  • strawberry9

    Posted May 5, 2008 6:38 pm PT

    If somebody is influenced to commit crimes because he played a game that had crimes in it... that person was probably messed up in the first place...

  • LURCH87

    Posted May 5, 2008 10:59 am PT

    ratings dont matter i was getting mature games before i hit double digits. i was raised good so i know not to go shoot up a city because i played a violent game.

  • Joril

    Posted May 5, 2008 10:36 am PT

    Isn't the Australian government doing this? Don't the people of Australia get to elect their government?
    This censoring sucks a big one, but next time: do vote or vote for some one else.

  • cichy69

    Posted May 5, 2008 8:47 am PT

    @tenno2529

    wow you went from 15 to 16 years old, in 6 minutes :] lol

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