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On the surface, Rock Band seems like a regular music rhythm game, albeit one with several different input devices. The game may seem as simple as timing your button presses, drum beats, or vocals to the onscreen prompts, but Rock Band's highly interactive nature pushes the game beyond basic rhythm matching once you actually start playing. As corny as it sounds, you really do feel like you're the one making the music. A large part of the feeling emanates from the controllers--the tactile feedback from the controller adds as much to the game experience as the acoustic response.

Strumming on the guitar, beating on the drums, and singing into the mic all give the game its distinct feel. The original Rock Band instruments worked well enough, but they certainly had their flaws. Pedals broke, strum bars failed, and buttons just didn't respond as well as they used to with the passage of time. The folks at Harmonix know very well that these instruments can only take so much punishment. The Harmonix designers learned a lot from customer experiences with the first instrument set and went back to the drawing board to improve upon their original designs to make Rock Band 2's instruments even better.

Rock Band 2's instruments represent a major step forward on numerous fronts. The corded microphone remains largely the same, but both the drums and the guitar have gone wireless. The instruments also received numerous usability upgrades. The changes range from aesthetic design choices all the way up to highly complex auto-calibration features that make the game easier to set up and play on LCDs. The new instruments are also fully backward compatible with the first Rock Band and will be forward compatible with future Rock Band games as well. Harmonix doesn't aim to add features that require users to purchase new instruments with each new game.

The Drums

We all know people who've mangled their existing Rock Band drum sets. Whether it's from beating on the drum heads too hard or slamming on the foot pedal, if you hit something enough times, it will break. Harmonix can't make an indestructible drum set yet, but it did do a lot to improve upon the original design.

Drums       Controls       Foot Pedal       Side of Pedal      

The new drum heads have silver rims and a black center area, which provides a visual target for drummers to hit. Of course, it doesn't make any difference where you strike the pad to register a hit, but now you something to aim for with the target. The new pads also come with velocity-sensitive drum pads that have vastly improved hit detection in terms of its sensitivity and accuracy. Light taps and all-out drumming actions register equally well. The velocity-sensitive pads will also produce different levels of sound in-game, depending upon how hard you hit them. Light taps will illicit soft drumming, while hard hits will sound like you're bringing down the house.

The new drum heads are made of a blend of silicone and plastics. The change in materials gives the drum heads a much better bounce back that makes them more like real drums. The pads also emit a much deeper sound when struck, producing a tone that's closer to an actual drum, which is much better than the sharp sounds that the old drums made. Matt Boch, creative designer at Harmonix, explained that the original drum kit emitted far more "noys" than the new kit. In the professional sound world, noys are a measurement of how much annoying sound is emitted from an object. Sound preferences may seem purely subjective, but some sounds just aren't pleasing to the ear. The goal for the Rock Band 2 drums was to minimize sound in the 3,000 to 6,000Hz range. The designers went through a variety of heads trying to find the right material mix. Some test heads were completely silent--great for low noise environments, but--just like driving an eerily silent electric car--they didn't feel right. Ultimately, the designers settled on a drum set that's considerably quieter, provides better tactile response, and gives better acoustic feedback.

We're sure many users will be happy to hear that the foot pedal has received a massive upgrade. The pedal itself now has a metal surface, which essentially makes it impossible to snap in half. The pedal movement now transfers force onto two new, nonslip pads that prevent the entire drum structure from sliding away as you mash the pedal.

Pedal Stays up!       Cymbal Inputs       Slip Pads       Cymbals      

The new drums also come with support for a new set of cymbals to add realism for hardcore players. In a nod toward backward compatibility, the cymbals are basically extensions of the existing Rock Band control scheme. Hitting the blue drum pad or the blue cymbal will both register as blue hits. But you aren't just hitting the cymbals for show; Harmonix told GameSpot that even though the hit registers under the same color, a cymbal strike will emit an in-game cymbal sound. There will be three color-coded cymbal inputs on the back side of the drum set. You'll have to purchase the cymbals separately though. Cymbals will be available from Mad Catz, and will be sold in sets of three for $30, or one for $15.

The drum set is also easier to set up and move. The set now has height markers to make it easier to adjust the drums to different height levels. The set also has a new pedal-retention mechanism that prevents the foot-pedal structure from falling off when lifting the entire drum set off of the floor. The guide button is also much harder to accidentally strike and requires a prolonged press to register.

280 Comments

  • blacksparrow15

    Posted Dec 4, 2008 7:58 pm PT

    Yeah those Cymbals look way better than GH:WT, too bad it's not free and the fact that I'm a vocalist. Rock Band is just more original than GH, too bad they didn't think of going full band sooner, then they could have been Rock Hero and we wouldn't to put up with all this Rock Band is better or GH:WT is better.
    Also does anyone else think there should be a Vocal battle or a Drum battle instead of just Guitar battle or a full band battle, where you and your band mates battle with other bands and use power-ups and stuff.

  • dsan224

    Posted Oct 13, 2008 4:07 am PT

    rock band 2 guitar looks amazing, and i bet is amazing.

  • sublimeambition

    Posted Oct 9, 2008 8:24 am PT

    why do people keep mentioning that one game copies another... they are both created by the same company..

    (rockband and guitar hero, that is)

  • darkknight619

    Posted Sep 27, 2008 1:50 am PT

    guitar hero 4's guitar look much more better

  • Viper_1989

    Posted Sep 22, 2008 10:09 am PT

    sorry but guitar hero 4's drum still look far more impressive

  • simonp18

    Posted Sep 19, 2008 8:08 am PT

    Forgot to talk about the double bass pedal...... Bad Gamespot! lol

  • Leo0707

    Posted Sep 17, 2008 10:54 am PT

    To gamers who have played both Rock Band 2 & Guitar Hero 3 (0r Areosmith). Which guitar do you prefer? I hated the 1st Rock Band guitar but what about the 2nd.

  • silenteko2k8

    Posted Sep 17, 2008 10:45 am PT

    Bonkie, turn your tv up. Incase you didn't read the article it says the drums sets are "considerably quieter." Save your judgements for when you get the game instead of basing it off of the first game. Oh and rock band came out with drums and a mic over a year ago. Who's copying who?

  • Bonkie101 posted Sep 15, 2008 3:30 pm PT (does not meet display criteria. login to show)

    Bonkie101

    Posted Sep 15, 2008 3:30 pm PT (hide)

    I love how they totally stole the idea for the velocity/pressure sensitive drum pads from Activision, who had it announced for months now.

    I hate, though, how they didn't go with the completely silent drum pads. My problem with the original drums was that I could NOT hear the drums on the game because they were too loud. With completely silent pads, I'd be able to hear the drums on the game, and it wouldn't be an awkwardly silent experience like Gamestop claims.

    Way to make a game not as good as Activision again... regardless of the songs, this one will still not be as good, even if World Tour's drums are loud.

  • glass_flame

    Posted Sep 14, 2008 4:39 am PT

    To Phxsuns: Yes, the Guitar Hero III controller works fine with both games. Up until later this morning, when I get the Rock Band 2 Guitar, I'll have used only that.

  • dn3datomiced

    Posted Sep 13, 2008 6:00 pm PT

    Mmm...I wanted the World Tour drums until I heard about the cymbals. Now they're out of the running again. I'll have to break down and purchase both games' guitars, though. I really DO love the heft that Strat carries, but I want the functionality of the GHWT slide strip and music creation.

  • KAKohler

    Posted Sep 13, 2008 5:22 pm PT

    i think i am going to get only the Rockband 2 game but get the gear and the game of GHWT bc honestly GH gear looks better but rockband has a AWESOME playlist

  • -Beatz-

    Posted Sep 13, 2008 8:23 am PT

    Kaztiyo, how old are you again? Five (and a wannabe hard-core band drummer) seems right to me.

  • Ice_man_1985

    Posted Sep 12, 2008 5:24 pm PT

    i think im going for RB2 instead of gh, because now they know most of the previews issues on rockband instrumens, but gh drums kit is new to redoctane, so im sure they will have issues for the first time, and maybe i could be wrong.

  • Get_Shorty

    Posted Sep 12, 2008 10:23 am PT

    Well they fixed ALL the issues with the first drum set. Way to go!

  • phxsuns480

    Posted Sep 11, 2008 10:27 pm PT

    does anybody know if the xbox 360 wireless guitar hero guitar is compatible with rockband or rockband 2? i really dont wanna waste more money buyin another guitar i dont want a mess in my living room

  • videogamelover8

    Posted Sep 11, 2008 4:50 pm PT

    looks better than the first drums

  • LikwidX3

    Posted Sep 11, 2008 1:04 pm PT

    come to think about it, double bass would be useless as everything on rock band is easy as hell with just 1 pedal.

  • LikwidX3

    Posted Sep 11, 2008 1:02 pm PT

    the new set looks nice, except the symbols, they look dumb, good thing theyre optional. if you can get another pedal and double bass it up that would be an amazing addition. i see the guitar still sucks.. oh well ill use my sick GHWT axe.

  • Imagine09

    Posted Sep 10, 2008 8:40 pm PT

    hey! theres an orange input.
    Double bass option!?!

  • Girman

    Posted Sep 10, 2008 4:01 pm PT

    I just want the drums, I got 2 guitars, the mic possibly can come with it. Awesome addition with the symbols

  • Dogar230

    Posted Sep 9, 2008 6:39 pm PT

    I think I woulda liked trying a totally silent drum set.

  • wiiplayer23

    Posted Sep 8, 2008 10:17 pm PT

    actually, TheDarkRising, theres a video on gametrailers.com that has the E3 info about RB2 and the guy said that you can purchase a pedal seperatly and plug it into one of the cymbal inputs and use it as a double bass

  • TheDarkRising

    Posted Sep 8, 2008 9:11 pm PT

    So freakin awesome!!! Finally someone used their brain!!! But why is there still no double bass pedal?

  • Anteraan

    Posted Sep 7, 2008 5:39 pm PT

    "Babeeba Posted Jul 31, 2008 9:08 pm GMT If they've decided on throwing cymbals into the mix, then why not add another bass pedal? A little double bass action couldn't hurt the drum solos!"

    They're doing that. There is a port for a second drum pedal, which to me is as great an addition as the cymbals. I can't wait!

  • KentTalbert posted Sep 6, 2008 11:10 pm PT (does not meet display criteria. login to show)

    KentTalbert

    Posted Sep 6, 2008 11:10 pm PT (hide)

    Oh my GOD! It's a fake drumset!

  • yinyang3

    Posted Sep 6, 2008 6:44 pm PT

    Anyone know if I can buy the bass pedal separately?

  • Grant41

    Posted Sep 6, 2008 8:30 am PT

    I agree with Xfat, at adapter for the old drums to add cymbals would be money, since I already got my old drums quieted down quite a bit.

  • chex81

    Posted Sep 5, 2008 6:46 am PT

    my original rock band drum pedal recently snapped (PoS!), i wasn't intending on buying a new RB drum kit to play the game...but ill pick this up the day of release cause i love the game so much. unfortunately this new updated kit costs $90...

  • djdna514

    Posted Sep 2, 2008 7:51 pm PT

    kaztiyo not that many people have the knack enought to keep thier rythym on their own. So they can follow along. And be in a virtual band with other people who dont have the knack. Why do you play the games you do? How bout you think before you post?

  • kaztiyo posted Aug 30, 2008 10:21 pm PT (does not meet display criteria. login to show)

    kaztiyo

    Posted Aug 30, 2008 10:21 pm PT (hide)

    WOW!!!! look at that last picture with all the cymbals...
    if people are really willing to spend that much money in buying a video game that simulates playing the drums... why don't we just buy an actual drum set to create real music?

    all this rock band and guitar hero thing is really becoming exaggerated and pathetic

  • asm607

    Posted Aug 30, 2008 10:21 am PT

    It's too bad it doesn't just come with cymbals like ghwt.

  • ARSPORTS

    Posted Aug 30, 2008 9:08 am PT

    i like the cymbal idea

  • gameoveriso

    Posted Aug 30, 2008 5:48 am PT

    getting it soon

  • theguitarhero6

    Posted Aug 29, 2008 6:42 pm PT

    Does anybody know if i could just buy the drums and the game as a package instead of all of it cause my bass pedal is kind of split right down the middle.

  • link631

    Posted Aug 28, 2008 8:55 pm PT

    sweet

  • FreeBallz

    Posted Aug 28, 2008 7:50 pm PT

    gameaddict07 Posted Aug 28, 2008 8:18 pm GMT rock band is a cheap immitation of guitar hero

    Rock Band is made by the by the orginal developers of guitar hero 1 and 2, If u werent just a spiteful punk, u would know this.

  • ChampMLG posted Aug 28, 2008 7:28 pm PT (does not meet display criteria. login to show)

    ChampMLG

    Posted Aug 28, 2008 7:28 pm PT (hide)

    Meet the new guitar... same as the old guitar...

  • ChampMLG posted Aug 28, 2008 7:27 pm PT (does not meet display criteria. login to show)

    ChampMLG

    Posted Aug 28, 2008 7:27 pm PT (hide)

    Meet the new drums... same as the old drums...

  • Xfat

    Posted Aug 28, 2008 6:02 pm PT

    just gonna buy the cymbals if they are gonna have an adapter for the old drums

  • malkin71rules

    Posted Aug 28, 2008 3:50 pm PT

    i like the guitar, i want it because it is quiet

  • malkin71rules

    Posted Aug 28, 2008 3:46 pm PT

    Im gonna need help, i dunno if i should get GHWT or RB2

  • DoMiNiC147

    Posted Aug 28, 2008 3:12 pm PT

    I'll buy the drums and the game cause that's all I really need.

  • gameaddict07 posted Aug 28, 2008 12:18 pm PT (does not meet display criteria. login to show)

    gameaddict07

    Posted Aug 28, 2008 12:18 pm PT (hide)

    rock band is a cheap immitation of guitar hero

  • souperman24

    Posted Aug 27, 2008 8:24 pm PT

    but they drums looks cool!!

  • souperman24

    Posted Aug 27, 2008 8:22 pm PT

    well... the symbols shud work on the older drums. cuz the symbols are just extender thingys.

  • ps3eyerock

    Posted Aug 22, 2008 10:02 am PT

    stupid I am not buyin rockband again with new stuff

  • ZOnikJJ

    Posted Aug 22, 2008 2:26 am PT

    Not sure if I'm ready to buy another set of "equipment" for this game hehe.