"Abusive working conditions?" Sorry, this is pure f'ing whining from people who have never had an actual bad job. Unlike millions of their fellow citizens, these folks go to work every day without the risk of being electrocuted, crushed, impaled, burned, poisoned or otherwise physically f***ed up. They don't end the day exhausted from physical labor or smelling like trash or excrement. They make wages that can pay for a comfortable lifestyle, can send their kids to college, and have benefits that some people would kill for. They don't get locked out by management, or get death threats from union goons, if they vote the wrong way on a contract. Here's some REAL advice for the kids out there who think they can punch a clock for 40 hours and get everything the world has to offer: nobody owes you a g*dd*mn thing. If you want to succeed, if you want to make a career in any respectable field - and especially a field that everybody wants in on at the moment - then you'll have to WORK. You'll have to work your ass off, to a level that school and sports and a part-time job at a gas station haven't nearly prepared you for. You'll have to invest yourself in your work, and care about doing it right, more than you care about getting home to eat dinner and watch American Idol. Because, at the end of the day, your career will be about producing something of value in return for your pay - if you don't, a well-managed company will fire you, and a poorly-managed company will go out of business from paying you and your workmates for nothing, and no law, union, or jump in social consciousness is going to change that. If you can't handle it, and just want to punch a clock, fine, but get ready to go paycheck-to-paycheck for the rest of your life. Thus endeth the rant.
@maxwell97 I wont argue with most of your rant, because I think most of it is spot on. However there are two basic kinds of abuse: mental AND physical. While physical abuse can in certain cases threaten your livelihood, mental abuse can endanger your sanity, your psyche, and your peace of mind. Physical can make you dead, but metal can make you wish you were. And in case it wasn't communicated to you effectively, these poor working conditions aren't your romanticized stepping-stones to success, they don't even guarantee your job will be waiting for you in the morning. The issue is that their hard work earns them, in many cases, nil. My point is, don't classify something as cushy before you've been there in those conditions. Thus endeth the response to the rant.
@LanceCypher Heh, fair enough. Still, I've read enough of these stories to be unimpressed with the supposed hardships. These guys wouldn't last five minutes on a factory floor. The Ono guy in particular annoyed me. Basically he was upset that, when he recovered from an illness and went back to work, people were very nice to him but still expected him to actually WORK. As for getting laid off, it's not necessarily an easy lifestyle, but it's part of the job in any project-oriented field. They shouldn't expect to get paid for the months they're not working on anything. They got their compensation and the experience that went with it, so I don't see it as abusive.
@maxwell97 @LanceCypher "These guys wouldn't last five minutes on a factory floor" : Speculations only. Please, accept, my simple testimony :I used to work a few years in the construction ( historical monuments in Europe ; I am a french dude soon escaped from school ) as handler, and then, later, as an experimented worker. In many ways, it was indeed hard : Unpayed unexpected hours, intense physical fatigue preventing you to do anything interesting once the work done, several dangers, etc...Once, I fell off the ladder, and broke some part of my back : I had to study a new job. It took me a few years but, as an independent first and then as employee in a little company, I managed to own my life in developping video games and some other 3D programes.Of course, I did not work for Activision but I was not payed more than when I was worker in the construction ( in both cases, legally minimal french pay, just to be mentionned )The programs and games I did, almost alone in my case, allowed my bosses to make much more money than I never had in my all life ( since now ).They did just never wrote any line of code, neither will never be able to understand any of it, but they finally own the biggest part of the money : Here, I guess this is pretty much similar to what whas happening when I was in the construction. I liked to work on projects involving imagination / creation parts thus I did tons of unpayed hours to ensure these wholes projects, in which parts of my souls were, will be able to remain "alive" ( means ready-to-sell ) : Nights, days, week-ends, etc... I sacrificed even more time than I never had to, when I was travelling to work on churches and castles roofs.Technically and mentally, it asked me a lot more focus to fix bugs, to bypass technologies limitations, etc...As a manual worker I could still think to other things when I was working, most of the time, to think to my life, to my future, etc...As a developper, my whole thinking had to be oriented to the code. I dreamt of code. I nightmared of code. I used to wake up with solutions for the code.I became some kind of bot machine more than I had never was before.Think about it one second : People working in construction, but also in restaurants, or even in hospitals, ... Are often making a lot of hours too, but they work along human people like them.What about a job where you are alone, for undiscontinued hours and hours, behind a screen, something like 95% of the time ?...Reading line after line, seeking the bad line ? In fact, you got no idea of what it could be.After a few years working as developper, I retired a few monthes ago of my job : Now, half the time I work in some manual jobs, to make money to eat, and half-the-time-remaining I am still developping a few things as an independent developper, mainly for the fun, a bit in hoping some kind of social interest from players, and a bit as a bad habit.I know most of the people will never be able to just understand why making video game or programs could be such a pain, regarding to so many jobs where pain is more easy-to-see... But please, beleive me, try it.Maybe you'll be a lucky one, fool to complain, but maybe you'll be part of the other group ; it is existing.