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sony: we finished 3rd this gen.. launch price was to blame

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  • Level 65
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    Jun 13, 2012 12:12 am GMT
    kuraimen wrote:
    I bought my PS3 when the price was cut to $500..

    When it had no games?

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    [QUOTE="kuraimen"]I bought my PS3 when the price was cut to $500..[/QUOTE] When it had no games? :o
  • Level 63
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    Jun 13, 2012 12:32 am GMT
    Finishing 3rd out of the 3 consoles

    So last, Sony, it's LAST.

    PLAYING : GUILD WARS 2 I WALKING DEAD I NBA2K13 I HOTLINE MIAMI

    Finishing 3rd out of the 3 consoles So last, Sony, it's LAST.
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    Jun 13, 2012 12:48 am GMT
    mems_1224 wrote:
    that and they didnt have any good games for like 4 years

    1.5 years
    [QUOTE="mems_1224"]that and they didnt have any good games for like 4 years[/QUOTE] 1.5 years
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    Jun 13, 2012 1:17 am GMT
    nolson wrote:

    kingtito wrote:
    nolson wrote:

    People who bought xbox at launch for 400 with a live subscription since then have paid 650 dollars to date, more then a launch ps3. So in the end buying ps3 at launch and playing online was cheaper than buying a 360 at launch with playing online. Gotta look at the big picture and btw on this topic in general, if ps3 and 360 came out at the same time and not a year difference 360 would be in last place right now.

    Yeah yeah cows keep claiming the 360 is more expansive yet it still sold more 6 years later when the PS3 was supposed to destroy the 360 at launch. Not to mention cows love to use the $600 price tad as the blame for the slow sales. So what is it, the 360 is more expensive or the PS3 is? Can't have it both ways. Don't blame the late start for being in last. That was Sony's decision, arogant as it was, and noone elses. They chose to come out a year later and they chose to give a $600 price tag. Since you want to play the "IF" game IF Japan bought 360's the lead would be insurmountable, not that they will be caught now. IF the 360 didn't have the RROD fiasco they'd probably be ahead of Nintendo (that's a big if) or it would be very close. Don't give excuses for Sony being in last, just accept it and move on. No point in blind loaylty to a company that really doesn't care about you one way or another other than to get what's in your wallet.

    360 is more expensive in the long run but just looking at them at launch it seemed cheaper. And LOL, if anything RROD made xbox sales INFLATED then what they should be. People bought 2 or 3 extra consoles because of that fiasco. Without RROD ps3 prob would be ahead lol. And I'm sorry you can't except the facts. It's not an excuse, it is a FACT that the ps3 has outsold 360 if you look at sales against time on the market. ps3 almost 6 full years 360 almost 7. Theres only a 2 million gap so its easy to see 360 would be last. its not a what if game, its a fact.



    lol I always love this verging on ******** in the least completely moronic statement.
    but but but but but but 360 fans all purchased 3-4 extra 360's...because RROD wasn't fixed for free....
    [QUOTE="nolson"]

    [QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="nolson"]

    People who bought xbox at launch for 400 with a live subscription since then have paid 650 dollars to date, more then a launch ps3. So in the end buying ps3 at launch and playing online was cheaper than buying a 360 at launch with playing online. Gotta look at the big picture ;) and btw on this topic in general, if ps3 and 360 came out at the same time and not a year difference 360 would be in last place right now.

    [/QUOTE] Yeah yeah cows keep claiming the 360 is more expansive yet it still sold more 6 years later when the PS3 was supposed to destroy the 360 at launch. Not to mention cows love to use the $600 price tad as the blame for the slow sales. So what is it, the 360 is more expensive or the PS3 is? Can't have it both ways. Don't blame the late start for being in last. That was Sony's decision, arogant as it was, and noone elses. They chose to come out a year later and they chose to give a $600 price tag. Since you want to play the "IF" game IF Japan bought 360's the lead would be insurmountable, not that they will be caught now. IF the 360 didn't have the RROD fiasco they'd probably be ahead of Nintendo (that's a big if) or it would be very close. Don't give excuses for Sony being in last, just accept it and move on. No point in blind loaylty to a company that really doesn't care about you one way or another other than to get what's in your wallet. [/QUOTE]

    360 is more expensive in the long run but just looking at them at launch it seemed cheaper. And LOL, if anything RROD made xbox sales INFLATED then what they should be. People bought 2 or 3 extra consoles because of that fiasco. Without RROD ps3 prob would be ahead lol. And I'm sorry you can't except the facts. It's not an excuse, it is a FACT that the ps3 has outsold 360 if you look at sales against time on the market. ps3 almost 6 full years 360 almost 7. Theres only a 2 million gap so its easy to see 360 would be last. its not a what if game, its a fact.

    [/QUOTE] lol I always love this verging on ******** in the least completely moronic statement. but but but but but but 360 fans all purchased 3-4 extra 360's...because RROD wasn't fixed for free....
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    Jun 13, 2012 1:19 am GMT

    WilliamRLBaker wrote:

    lol I always love this verging on ******** in the least completely moronic statement. but but but but but but 360 fans all purchased 3-4 extra 360's...because RROD wasn't fixed for free....

    asdsad

    asd

    [QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

    lol I always love this verging on ******** in the least completely moronic statement. but but but but but but 360 fans all purchased 3-4 extra 360's...because RROD wasn't fixed for free....[/QUOTE]

    asdsad

  • Level 49
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    Jun 13, 2012 1:24 am GMT
    @tenaka 1. he can't see it, 2. its old
    tormentos wrote:
    The PS4 will not pass $400 in US.
    @tenaka 1. he can't see it, 2. its old
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    Jun 13, 2012 1:26 am GMT

    Maneil99 wrote:

    mahmoudddd wrote:

    GamerwillzPS wrote:

    Of course, the PS3 can run Witcher 2 like a big guy lifting a small weight. It just boils down to the developer really. They are just scared of working with PS3 which indicates lack of skills and talent on their part.

    dodge the fact that i have destroyed all your claims that the ps3 is omre powerful than the xbox

    just dodge it!

    also witcher 2 is infinitely better game than uncharted hah

    The witcher 2 is not being ported to ps3 because it would take to much man power to port to new architecture. Are you stupid/ they are a smaller dev team. Stop posting biased links to forums as facts before you get banned. Its ad really, trying to justify you lies with 2nd hand sources.

    You are being dense my friend, i am not the one who posted the forum links about the PS3 not being able to do this or that, i posted forum links about naughty dog's Q and A concerning the PS2 and sly games. Let me re paste them for you.

    naughty dog said that uncharted 1 used only like 40 or 50% of the PS3's power

    now, when you google for the q and a concerning sly and the ps2, here's what naughty dog says

    http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1084227&start=40

    http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/there-s-no-such-thing-as-using/541952

    http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=55634&page=18

    http://www.xbox360forum.com/xbox-forum/threads/86078-Official-quot-Killzone-2-quot-General-Discussion-Thread/page4

    all these forum posts have talked about naughty dog's take on blowing smoke about percentage usage for the ps2

    they then themselves proceed to blow smoke with the ps3 and uncharted

    admit it, you're in denial, naughty dog lied and sony also lied

    this link http://www.naughtydog.com/jak1/20Questions.htm is not available anymore, naughty dog took it down

    they are not bull crap links, they only show that naughty dog lied out of its butt for uncharted 1

    [QUOTE="Maneil99"]

    [QUOTE="mahmoudddd"]

    [QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

    Of course, the PS3 can run Witcher 2 like a big guy lifting a small weight. It just boils down to the developer really. They are just scared of working with PS3 which indicates lack of skills and talent on their part.

    [/QUOTE]

    dodge the fact that i have destroyed all your claims that the ps3 is omre powerful than the xbox

    just dodge it!

    also witcher 2 is infinitely better game than uncharted hah

    [/QUOTE] The witcher 2 is not being ported to ps3 because it would take to much man power to port to new architecture. Are you stupid/ they are a smaller dev team. Stop posting biased links to forums as facts before you get banned. Its ad really, trying to justify you lies with 2nd hand sources.

    [/QUOTE]

    You are being dense my friend, i am not the one who posted the forum links about the PS3 not being able to do this or that, i posted forum links about naughty dog's Q and A concerning the PS2 and sly games. Let me re paste them for you.

    naughty dog said that uncharted 1 used only like 40 or 50% of the PS3's power

    now, when you google for the q and a concerning sly and the ps2, here's what naughty dog says

    http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1084227&start=40

    http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/there-s-no-such-thing-as-using/541952

    http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=55634&page=18

    http://www.xbox360forum.com/xbox-forum/threads/86078-Official-quot-Killzone-2-quot-General-Discussion-Thread/page4

    all these forum posts have talked about naughty dog's take on blowing smoke about percentage usage for the ps2

    they then themselves proceed to blow smoke with the ps3 and uncharted

    admit it, you're in denial, naughty dog lied and sony also lied

    this link http://www.naughtydog.com/jak1/20Questions.htm is not available anymore, naughty dog took it down

    they are not bull crap links, they only show that naughty dog lied out of its butt for uncharted 1

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    Jun 13, 2012 1:28 am GMT

    sts106mat wrote:
    @tenaka 1. he can't see it, 2. its old

    Its not for his benefit and it gets a lot of lols.

    asd

    [QUOTE="sts106mat"]@tenaka 1. he can't see it, 2. its old[/QUOTE]

    Its not for his benefit and it gets a lot of lols.

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    Jun 13, 2012 1:39 am GMT
    sts106mat wrote:
    @tenaka 1. he can't see it, 2. its old


    I frankly fear for my a*** v******* when tenaka is around he knows he's ignored yet he keeps posting that picture I frankly find it very stalkerish I've got a pricing set for a complete security system and bars on my windows you just never know with someone like tenaka.
    [QUOTE="sts106mat"]@tenaka 1. he can't see it, 2. its old[/QUOTE] I frankly fear for my a*** v******* when tenaka is around he knows he's ignored yet he keeps posting that picture I frankly find it very stalkerish I've got a pricing set for a complete security system and bars on my windows you just never know with someone like tenaka.
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    Jun 13, 2012 1:43 am GMT
    WilliamRLBaker wrote:
    sts106mat wrote:
    @tenaka 1. he can't see it, 2. its old


    I frankly fear for my a*** v******* when tenaka is around he knows he's ignored yet he keeps posting that picture I frankly find it very stalkerish I've got a pricing set for a complete security system and bars on my windows you just never know with someone like tenaka.

    you cannot trust anyone who remotely associates themselves with pandas.
    tormentos wrote:
    The PS4 will not pass $400 in US.
    [QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]@tenaka 1. he can't see it, 2. its old[/QUOTE] I frankly fear for my a*** v******* when tenaka is around he knows he's ignored yet he keeps posting that picture I frankly find it very stalkerish I've got a pricing set for a complete security system and bars on my windows you just never know with someone like tenaka.[/QUOTE] you cannot trust anyone who remotely associates themselves with pandas.
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    Jun 13, 2012 1:46 am GMT
    sts106mat wrote:
    WilliamRLBaker wrote:
    sts106mat wrote:
    @tenaka 1. he can't see it, 2. its old


    I frankly fear for my a*** v******* when tenaka is around he knows he's ignored yet he keeps posting that picture I frankly find it very stalkerish I've got a pricing set for a complete security system and bars on my windows you just never know with someone like tenaka.

    you cannot trust anyone who remotely associates themselves with pandas.


    yeah grizzly bears for the win! oh and koala's.
    [QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]@tenaka 1. he can't see it, 2. its old[/QUOTE] I frankly fear for my a*** v******* when tenaka is around he knows he's ignored yet he keeps posting that picture I frankly find it very stalkerish I've got a pricing set for a complete security system and bars on my windows you just never know with someone like tenaka.[/QUOTE] you cannot trust anyone who remotely associates themselves with pandas.[/QUOTE] yeah grizzly bears for the win! oh and koala's.
  • Level 49
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    Jun 13, 2012 1:48 am GMT
    WilliamRLBaker wrote:
    sts106mat wrote:
    WilliamRLBaker wrote:


    I frankly fear for my a*** v******* when tenaka is around he knows he's ignored yet he keeps posting that picture I frankly find it very stalkerish I've got a pricing set for a complete security system and bars on my windows you just never know with someone like tenaka.

    you cannot trust anyone who remotely associates themselves with pandas.


    yeah grizzly bears for the win! oh and koala's.

    oh yeah. I got to hold (read cuddle) a koala in australia, as a kid, they were my favourite animal, so it was truly a dream come true. amazing
    tormentos wrote:
    The PS4 will not pass $400 in US.
    [QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] I frankly fear for my a*** v******* when tenaka is around he knows he's ignored yet he keeps posting that picture I frankly find it very stalkerish I've got a pricing set for a complete security system and bars on my windows you just never know with someone like tenaka.[/QUOTE] you cannot trust anyone who remotely associates themselves with pandas.[/QUOTE] yeah grizzly bears for the win! oh and koala's.[/QUOTE] oh yeah. I got to hold (read cuddle) a koala in australia, as a kid, they were my favourite animal, so it was truly a dream come true. amazing
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    Jun 13, 2012 2:10 am GMT

    Not just price, the complex CELL kept development long when they needed games to come out. Long development cycles aren't really good business.

    Spend years and years developing a game and then not marketing it well.

    They made so many arrogant mistakes, it's silly to blame just te price.

    Edited on Jun 13, 2012 2:13 am GMT



    Not just price, the complex CELL kept development long when they needed games to come out. Long development cycles aren't really good business.

    Spend years and years developing a game and then not marketing it well.

    They made so many arrogant mistakes, it's silly to blame just te price.

  • Level 62
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    Jun 13, 2012 2:47 am GMT

    And releasing a console with no good games for two years.

    Owner of a Wii/360/PS3

    And releasing a console with no good games for two years.

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    Jun 13, 2012 2:56 am GMT

    At least they're admitting it. It probably means the PS4 will start out cheaper, which is good news for everybody.

    At least they're admitting it. It probably means the PS4 will start out cheaper, which is good news for everybody.

  • Level 48
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    Jun 13, 2012 3:21 am GMT
    finalstar2007 wrote:

    So i guess this confirms the next playstation wont be priced too high. good new for me



    My thoughts exactly
    [QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

    So i guess this confirms the next playstation wont be priced too high. good new for me

    [/QUOTE] My thoughts exactly
  • Level 20
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    Jun 13, 2012 3:28 am GMT

    TopTierHustler wrote:

    If they relized high price killed them early on, when did they repeat their mistake with the vita?

    Also, the lack of games didn't help.

    Bingo. Sony is finished.

    [QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

    If they relized high price killed them early on, when did they repeat their mistake with the vita?

    Also, the lack of games didn't help.

    [/QUOTE]Bingo. Sony is finished.

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    TopTierHustler wrote:

    If they relized high price killed them early on, when did they repeat their mistake with the vita?

    Also, the lack of games didn't help.

    Bingo. Sony is finished.

    [QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

    If they relized high price killed them early on, when did they repeat their mistake with the vita?

    Also, the lack of games didn't help.

    [/QUOTE]Bingo. Sony is finished.

  • Level 25
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    Jun 13, 2012 3:46 am GMT

    good ...

    don't make your system so high priced and profits await Sony

    good ...

    don't make your system so high priced and profits await Sony

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