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    The Lakers and Magic have had talks about a possible deal, and plan to talk further about constructing a trade. No deals are imminent, and the process has remained fluid as teams have begun to inquire with more serious offers for Howard.
    Sources say there is one other trade scenario for a significant player that intrigues Magic general manager Rob Hennigan, but that target is unclear. Before the Magic would agree to consummate a trade for Bynum, they would need to know they could sign him to a contract extension, sources said. Bynum is entering the final year of his contract in the 2012-13 season.
    Whats more, Bynum wouldnt nearly be enough to satisfy Hennigans desires for a return on Howard. The Lakers would need to send draft picks and absorb long-term money off the Magics payroll, sources said.


    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/03/report-howard-for-bynum-up-next/?ls=iref%3Anbahpt1


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    Theres also that bit about Howard not wanting to play in Los Angeles or as second fiddle to Kobe Bryant. That would need to be addressed before any potential deals could get rolling. (The Lakers were initially on Howards preferred list of teams to play, along with the Nets and Mavericks, but disappeared after rumblings about a rift between Howard and Bryant began to spread.)


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    However positively the Magic feel about Bynum, they still need the Lakers to take back one of their expensive veteran contracts Hedo Turkoglu or Jason Richardson as part of any proposed trade. With Bynum, Orlando could use cap space to quickly retool its roster around him and become an Eastern Conference. Bynum is coming off his best season for the Lakers, averaging 18.7 points and 11.8 rebounds. Still, his immaturity at times still left Lakers coaches and officials unsettled about his disposition to be an every-night dominant player.


    Howard wants to be nobodies Pippen and the Lakers would need to pick up either Turkoglu or Richardson which would be difficult for them to do without trading Gasol in the process. The Nets are still the most likely choice and the Magic getting Brooks and Lopez combined with picks is the far better deal LA can't match.
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    [quote]The Lakers and Magic have had talks about a possible deal, and plan to talk further about constructing a trade. No deals are imminent, and the process has remained fluid as teams have begun to inquire with more serious offers for Howard. Sources say there is one other trade scenario for a significant player that intrigues Magic general manager Rob Hennigan, but that target is unclear. Before the Magic would agree to consummate a trade for Bynum, they would need to know they could sign him to a contract extension, sources said. Bynum is entering the final year of his contract in the 2012-13 season. [b]Whats more, Bynum wouldnt nearly be enough to satisfy Hennigans desires for a return on Howard. The Lakers would need to send draft picks and absorb long-term money off the Magics payroll, sources said.[/b][/quote] [url]http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/03/report-howard-for-bynum-up-next/?ls=iref%3Anbahpt1[/url] [quote]Theres also that bit about Howard not wanting to play in Los Angeles or as second fiddle to Kobe Bryant. That would need to be addressed before any potential deals could get rolling. (The Lakers were initially on Howards preferred list of teams to play, along with the Nets and Mavericks, but disappeared after rumblings about a rift between Howard and Bryant began to spread.)[/quote] [quote]However positively the Magic feel about Bynum, they still need the Lakers to take back one of their expensive veteran contracts Hedo Turkoglu or Jason Richardson as part of any proposed trade. With Bynum, Orlando could use cap space to quickly retool its roster around him and become an Eastern Conference. Bynum is coming off his best season for the Lakers, averaging 18.7 points and 11.8 rebounds. Still, his immaturity at times still left Lakers coaches and officials unsettled about his disposition to be an every-night dominant player.[/quote] Howard wants to be nobodies Pippen and the Lakers would need to pick up either Turkoglu or Richardson which would be difficult for them to do without trading Gasol in the process. The Nets are still the most likely choice and the Magic getting Brooks and Lopez combined with picks is the far better deal LA can't match.
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    Deron Williams just tweeted that he's staying with the Nets
    Deron Williams just tweeted that he's staying with the Nets
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    yeah, I think the Magic need to regain some leverage like the Nuggets did with Melo. Keep him until a deal blows you away. Maybe the Nets can get other teams 1st round picks to make the deal more reasonable, but the Nets picks simply aren't good enough because they will almost certainly be low picks

    Trade value for Dwight is low because he won't resign with any team other than Nets and the Nets do not have assets like the Knicks did and there seems to be only team willing to rent. Lakers would trade Bynum, which is the best possible deal for Magic, but not unless Dwight resigns


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    The Lakers and Magic have had talks about a possible deal, and plan to talk further about constructing a trade. No deals are imminent, and the process has remained fluid as teams have begun to inquire with more serious offers for Howard.
    Sources say there is one other trade scenario for a significant player that intrigues Magic general manager Rob Hennigan, but that target is unclear. Before the Magic would agree to consummate a trade for Bynum, they would need to know they could sign him to a contract extension, sources said. Bynum is entering the final year of his contract in the 2012-13 season.
    Whats more, Bynum wouldnt nearly be enough to satisfy Hennigans desires for a return on Howard. The Lakers would need to send draft picks and absorb long-term money off the Magics payroll, sources said.


    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/03/report-howard-for-bynum-up-next/?ls=iref%3Anbahpt1

    Read.

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    Theres also that bit about Howard not wanting to play in Los Angeles or as second fiddle to Kobe Bryant. That would need to be addressed before any potential deals could get rolling. (The Lakers were initially on Howards preferred list of teams to play, along with the Nets and Mavericks, but disappeared after rumblings about a rift between Howard and Bryant began to spread.)


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    However positively the Magic feel about Bynum, they still need the Lakers to take back one of their expensive veteran contracts Hedo Turkoglu or Jason Richardson as part of any proposed trade. With Bynum, Orlando could use cap space to quickly retool its roster around him and become an Eastern Conference. Bynum is coming off his best season for the Lakers, averaging 18.7 points and 11.8 rebounds. Still, his immaturity at times still left Lakers coaches and officials unsettled about his disposition to be an every-night dominant player.


    Howard wants to be nobodies Pippen and the Lakers would need to pick up either Turkoglu or Richardson which would be difficult for them to do without trading Gasol in the process. Just like with Asik, you need to back up your arguments with facts and not opinions. The Nets are still the most likely choice and the Magic getting Brooks and Lopez combined with picks is the far better deal LA can't match.

    read what I said. Try again later

    [QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"]yeah, I think the Magic need to regain some leverage like the Nuggets did with Melo. Keep him until a deal blows you away. Maybe the Nets can get other teams 1st round picks to make the deal more reasonable, but the Nets picks simply aren't good enough because they will almost certainly be low picks Trade value for Dwight is low because he won't resign with any team other than Nets and the Nets do not have assets like the Knicks did and there seems to be only team willing to rent. Lakers would trade Bynum, which is the best possible deal for Magic, but not unless Dwight resigns[/QUOTE] [quote]The Lakers and Magic have had talks about a possible deal, and plan to talk further about constructing a trade. No deals are imminent, and the process has remained fluid as teams have begun to inquire with more serious offers for Howard. Sources say there is one other trade scenario for a significant player that intrigues Magic general manager Rob Hennigan, but that target is unclear. Before the Magic would agree to consummate a trade for Bynum, they would need to know they could sign him to a contract extension, sources said. Bynum is entering the final year of his contract in the 2012-13 season. [b]Whats more, Bynum wouldnt nearly be enough to satisfy Hennigans desires for a return on Howard. The Lakers would need to send draft picks and absorb long-term money off the Magics payroll, sources said.[/b][/quote] [url]http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/03/report-howard-for-bynum-up-next/?ls=iref%3Anbahpt1[/url] Read. [quote]Theres also that bit about Howard not wanting to play in Los Angeles or as second fiddle to Kobe Bryant. That would need to be addressed before any potential deals could get rolling. (The Lakers were initially on Howards preferred list of teams to play, along with the Nets and Mavericks, but disappeared after rumblings about a rift between Howard and Bryant began to spread.)[/quote] [quote]However positively the Magic feel about Bynum, they still need the Lakers to take back one of their expensive veteran contracts Hedo Turkoglu or Jason Richardson as part of any proposed trade. With Bynum, Orlando could use cap space to quickly retool its roster around him and become an Eastern Conference. Bynum is coming off his best season for the Lakers, averaging 18.7 points and 11.8 rebounds. Still, his immaturity at times still left Lakers coaches and officials unsettled about his disposition to be an every-night dominant player.[/quote] Howard wants to be nobodies Pippen and the Lakers would need to pick up either Turkoglu or Richardson which would be difficult for them to do without trading Gasol in the process. Just like with Asik, you need to back up your arguments with facts and not opinions. The Nets are still the most likely choice and the Magic getting Brooks and Lopez combined with picks is the far better deal LA can't match.[/QUOTE] read what I said. Try again later
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    JML897 wrote:
    Deron Williams just tweeted that he's staying with the Nets
    What reason would he have to leave?
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    [QUOTE="JML897"]Deron Williams just tweeted that he's staying with the Nets[/QUOTE]What reason would he have to leave?
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    Jul 3, 2012 6:52 pm GMT

    Jason Kidd coming to the Knicks. Sounds good to me. Even better Nash/Kidd/Lin greatest PG trio ever.

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    Jason Kidd coming to the Knicks. Sounds good to me. Even better Nash/Kidd/Lin greatest PG trio ever.:shock:

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    deuce4eva wrote:

    Jason Kidd coming to the Knicks. Sounds good to me. Even better Nash/Kidd/Lin greatest PG trio ever.


    Lin looks like he is going to Rockets

    [QUOTE="deuce4eva"]

    Jason Kidd coming to the Knicks. Sounds good to me. Even better Nash/Kidd/Lin greatest PG trio ever.:shock:

    [/QUOTE] Lin looks like he is going to Rockets
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    No_Hablo_Ingles wrote:
    deuce4eva wrote:

    Jason Kidd coming to the Knicks. Sounds good to me. Even better Nash/Kidd/Lin greatest PG trio ever.

    Lin looks like he is going to Rockets

    No . Just take Dragic and leave him alone you had your chance once. We can match any offer so Lin's agent is just going to get him the best deal. Nash might be long gone, but he is giving us time to work and Sign-and Trade. Kidd will sign for the veteran's minimum so no worries there. Kidd likes Melo,Amare, and especially Chandler. If you backload the contract which you probably will because you wanna be dirty like that yeah we might not sign him.

    Edited on Jul 3, 2012 7:14 pm GMT Edited 3 total times.

    [QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="deuce4eva"]

    Jason Kidd coming to the Knicks. Sounds good to me. Even better Nash/Kidd/Lin greatest PG trio ever.:shock:

    [/QUOTE] Lin looks like he is going to Rockets[/QUOTE]

    No .:x Just take Dragic and leave him alone you had your chance once. We can match any offer so Lin's agent is just going to get him the best deal. Nash might be long gone, but he is giving us time to work and Sign-and Trade. Kidd will sign for the veteran's minimum so no worries there. Kidd likes Melo,Amare, and especially Chandler. If you backload the contract which you probably will because you wanna be dirty like that yeah we might not sign him.

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    deuce4eva wrote:

    No_Hablo_Ingles wrote:
    deuce4eva wrote:

    Jason Kidd coming to the Knicks. Sounds good to me. Even better Nash/Kidd/Lin greatest PG trio ever.

    Lin looks like he is going to Rockets

    No . Just take Dragic and leave him alone you had your chance once. We can match any offer so Lin's agent is just going to get him the best deal. Nash might be long gone, but he is giving us time to work and Sign-and Trade. Kidd will sign for the veteran's minimum so no worries there. Kidd likes Melo,Amare, and especially Chandler.


    8 mill a year, backloaded to hell. Not going to match, just like Asik.

    [QUOTE="deuce4eva"]

    [QUOTE="No_Hablo_Ingles"][QUOTE="deuce4eva"]

    Jason Kidd coming to the Knicks. Sounds good to me. Even better Nash/Kidd/Lin greatest PG trio ever.:shock:

    [/QUOTE] Lin looks like he is going to Rockets[/QUOTE]

    No .:x Just take Dragic and leave him alone you had your chance once. We can match any offer so Lin's agent is just going to get him the best deal. Nash might be long gone, but he is giving us time to work and Sign-and Trade. Kidd will sign for the veteran's minimum so no worries there. Kidd likes Melo,Amare, and especially Chandler.

    [/QUOTE] 8 mill a year, backloaded to hell. Not going to match, just like Asik.
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    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/03/lakers-enter-fray-for-steve-nash/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

    The Lakers seem to want Nash. But from that it seems neither the Knicks or Lakers could offer him much without a sign and trade. The Raptors kinda rained on NY's parade when they offered Fields $20 million. The Mavs also want Nash.
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    [url]http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/03/lakers-enter-fray-for-steve-nash/?ls=iref:nbahpt1[/url] The Lakers seem to want Nash. But from that it seems neither the Knicks or Lakers could offer him much without a sign and trade. The Raptors kinda rained on NY's parade when they offered Fields $20 million. The Mavs also want Nash.
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    Why don't do this to us i hope my gm makes the right decision. I just want Lin back

    :| Why don't do this to us i hope my gm makes the right decision. I just want Lin back:(

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    Well, Eric Gordon is off the market. Suns picked him up for 4 year, 58 million. Hornets are expected to match, but it looks like Gordon wants to play in Phoenix.

    Edited on Jul 3, 2012 7:38 pm GMT

    Well, Eric Gordon is off the market. Suns picked him up for 4 year, 58 million. Hornets are expected to match, but it looks like Gordon wants to play in Phoenix.

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    Thefatness16 wrote:

    Well, Eric Gordon is off the market. Suns picked him up for 4 year, 58 million. Hornets are expected to match, but it looks like Gordon wants to play in Phoenix.


    Wonder if that makes Nash more likely to want to stay with them.
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    [QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

    Well, Eric Gordon is off the market. Suns picked him up for 4 year, 58 million. Hornets are expected to match, but it looks like Gordon wants to play in Phoenix.

    [/QUOTE] Wonder if that makes Nash more likely to want to stay with them.
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    Thefatness16 wrote:

    Well, Eric Gordon is off the market. Suns picked him up for 4 year, 58 million. Hornets are expected to match, but it looks like Gordon wants to play in Phoenix.

    Gordon's an idiot.

    What in the hell is in Phoenix that isn't in New Orleans?

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    [QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

    Well, Eric Gordon is off the market. Suns picked him up for 4 year, 58 million. Hornets are expected to match, but it looks like Gordon wants to play in Phoenix.

    [/QUOTE]Gordon's an idiot. What in the hell is in Phoenix that isn't in New Orleans?
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    Lack of hurricanes
    Lack of hurricanes
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    Then Stern better veto this sh1t for basketball reasons.

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    Then Stern better veto this sh1t for basketball reasons.
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    So if the Nets manage to actually get Howard, they'll pretty much have gone from being one of the worst teams to one of the better teams, in a matter of a couple of weeks? Does anyone else find that ridiculous?

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    So if the Nets manage to actually get Howard, they'll pretty much have gone from being one of the worst teams to one of the better teams, in a matter of a couple of weeks? Does anyone else find that ridiculous?

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    Silverbond wrote:
    Thefatness16 wrote:

    Well, Eric Gordon is off the market. Suns picked him up for 4 year, 58 million. Hornets are expected to match, but it looks like Gordon wants to play in Phoenix.

    Gordon's an idiot.

    What in the hell is in Phoenix that isn't in New Orleans?

    His younger brother.

    [QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

    Well, Eric Gordon is off the market. Suns picked him up for 4 year, 58 million. Hornets are expected to match, but it looks like Gordon wants to play in Phoenix.

    [/QUOTE]Gordon's an idiot. What in the hell is in Phoenix that isn't in New Orleans?[/QUOTE] His younger brother.
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    TheWalkingGhost wrote:
    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/03/lakers-enter-fray-for-steve-nash/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

    The Lakers seem to want Nash. But from that it seems neither the Knicks or Lakers could offer him much without a sign and trade. The Raptors kinda rained on NY's parade when they offered Fields $20 million. The Mavs also want Nash.


    Do not want.
    [QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][url]http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/03/lakers-enter-fray-for-steve-nash/?ls=iref:nbahpt1[/url] The Lakers seem to want Nash. But from that it seems neither the Knicks or Lakers could offer him much without a sign and trade. The Raptors kinda rained on NY's parade when they offered Fields $20 million. The Mavs also want Nash.[/QUOTE] Do not want.
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    SilentSoprano wrote:

    So if the Nets manage to actually get Howard, they'll pretty much have gone from being one of the worst teams to one of the better teams, in a matter of a couple of weeks? Does anyone else find that ridiculous?



    Happens all the time. Boston did in 2007, Phoenix did it when they first got Nash, the Heat, etc....
    [QUOTE="SilentSoprano"]

    So if the Nets manage to actually get Howard, they'll pretty much have gone from being one of the worst teams to one of the better teams, in a matter of a couple of weeks? Does anyone else find that ridiculous?

    [/QUOTE] Happens all the time. Boston did in 2007, Phoenix did it when they first got Nash, the Heat, etc....
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