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  • GazaAli
     
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:46 pm GMT
    MrPraline wrote:
    GazaAli wrote:
    Why can't this specific incident be about an abusive husband rather than being about a Muslim one?

    If it's not Islam it's a cultural issue (though both are often more than tied together), both do not really change my message. We just don't want this sh*t in Europe.

    Don't you have European abusive husbands?

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    [QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] Why can't this specific incident be about an abusive husband rather than being about a Muslim one?[/QUOTE] If it's not Islam it's a cultural issue (though both are often more than tied together), both do not really change my message. We just don't want this sh*t in Europe.[/QUOTE] Don't you have European abusive husbands?
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  • Neoklondiak
     
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:46 pm GMT

    MrPraline's taken all the Islamic Studies courses out there and fitted them into a short post. Grats.

    Edited on Aug 12, 2012 1:47 pm GMT

    MrPraline's taken all the Islamic Studies courses out there and fitted them into a short post. Grats.

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  • MrPraline
     
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:46 pm GMT
    BossPerson wrote:
    MrPraline wrote:
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    But both forget they worship the same god.

    Man, that's becoming a bigger problem everyday instead of getting smaller now that i think about it.

    nah, contrary to popular belief, Allah is a continuation of an Arabic pagan moon god

    why do you think that, for example, the start of ramadan is based on moon sightings?
    You act like Muslims worship the moon. Not true.

    It's very plausible that Allah was influenced by an Arabic pagan moon god, as the article demonstrates. Of course it's more politically correct to lump it together with the Abrahamic religions, because interfaith dialogue and all. Some things, like the Ramadan aspect I mentioned, are fishy though.
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    [QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="StatusShuffle"] But both forget they worship the same god. Man, that's becoming a bigger problem everyday instead of getting smaller now that i think about it.[/QUOTE] nah, contrary to popular belief, Allah is a continuation of an Arabic pagan [url=http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/skm30804.htm]moon god[/url] why do you think that, for example, the start of ramadan is based on moon sightings?[/QUOTE]You act like Muslims worship the moon. Not true. [/QUOTE] It's very plausible that Allah was influenced by an Arabic pagan moon god, as the article demonstrates. Of course it's more politically correct to lump it together with the Abrahamic religions, because interfaith dialogue and all. Some things, like the Ramadan aspect I mentioned, are fishy though.
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:47 pm GMT
    BossPerson wrote:
    airshocker wrote:

    GazaAli wrote:
    Again, the old testament and Christianity's views on homosexuality, adultery...etc are not really that different from Islam. The way I see it is that western Christianity mainstreamed itself, due to the secular environment of the west and revolutions after the medieval in order to survive and be accepted. I'm not necessarily saying its good or bad, but I don't understand how a Christian would say he/she is ok with homosexuality for example when its clearly stated in the Bible and church's teachings that its not ok. Again this is not an argument about my view of homosexuality, I rather find it absurd on a theological level.

    I don't really care what the Old Testament says. There's a reason it's not acceptad in the West, just like the current form of Islam is unacceptable.

    yet you have no problem condemning Islam because of the Quran when you don;t condemn Christianity or Judaism because of the OT?


    You're kidding right? When's the last time a Jewish man beat the sh*t out of his daughter or his wife for not covering her face? When is the last time the Jews executed someone for adultery and homosexuality? Yeah. That's what I thought.
    [QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

    [QUOTE="GazaAli"]Again, the old testament and Christianity's views on homosexuality, adultery...etc are not really that different from Islam. The way I see it is that western Christianity mainstreamed itself, due to the secular environment of the west and revolutions after the medieval in order to survive and be accepted. I'm not necessarily saying its good or bad, but I don't understand how a Christian would say he/she is ok with homosexuality for example when its clearly stated in the Bible and church's teachings that its not ok. Again this is not an argument about my view of homosexuality, I rather find it absurd on a theological level.[/QUOTE]

    I don't really care what the Old Testament says. There's a reason it's not acceptad in the West, just like the current form of Islam is unacceptable.

    [/QUOTE]yet you have no problem condemning Islam because of the Quran when you don;t condemn Christianity or Judaism because of the OT? [/QUOTE] You're kidding right? When's the last time a Jewish man beat the sh*t out of his daughter or his wife for not covering her face? When is the last time the Jews executed someone for adultery and homosexuality? Yeah. That's what I thought.
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:47 pm GMT

    GazaAli wrote:
    Why is it when a non-Muslim does something horrible we can find a logical excuse to it, but when a Muslim does one we all shout ISLAM? Why can't this specific incident be about an abusive husband rather than being about a Muslim one?

    Because I'm not criticizing what Muslims did 500 years ago. I'm criticizing what they're doing TODAY. Islam promotes this type of behavior. Until it stops I will not stay quiet about how vile it is, like I have in the past.

    The difference between you and me? I run towards gunfire.

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    [QUOTE="GazaAli"]Why is it when a non-Muslim does something horrible we can find a logical excuse to it, but when a Muslim does one we all shout ISLAM? Why can't this specific incident be about an abusive husband rather than being about a Muslim one?[/QUOTE]

    Because I'm not criticizing what Muslims did 500 years ago. I'm criticizing what they're doing TODAY. Islam promotes this type of behavior. Until it stops I will not stay quiet about how vile it is, like I have in the past.

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  • kingkong0124
     
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:47 pm GMT

    I have to admit there is a flaw somewhere, on both sides (although I think we know which side is doing more damage than the other). For example, a higher percentage of Muslims are integrated to Western Culture in the U.S. than in Europe, despite the fact that they often come from the same regions of the world. It might be because people in America are very tolerant and accepting. I've stated several times in the past that American Muslims are the best kind of Muslims in the whole world.

    I have to admit there is a flaw somewhere, on both sides (although I think we know which side is doing more damage than the other). For example, a higher percentage of Muslims are integrated to Western Culture in the U.S. than in Europe, despite the fact that they often come from the same regions of the world. It might be because people in America are very tolerant and accepting. I've stated several times in the past that American Muslims are the best kind of Muslims in the whole world.

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  • StatusShuffle
     
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:47 pm GMT
    MrPraline wrote:
    StatusShuffle wrote:
    MannyDelgado wrote:
    I'm not denying that they have their similarities. But they are different religions with different holy books, and it's therefore inevitable and obvious that they will have different effects on any society they infect.


    But both forget they worship the same god.

    Man, that's becoming a bigger problem everyday instead of getting smaller now that i think about it.

    nah, contrary to popular belief, Allah is a continuation of an Arabic pagan moon god

    why do you think that, for example, the start of ramadan is based on moon sightings?


    SAME GOD DAMNIT.
    [QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="StatusShuffle"][QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]I'm not denying that they have their similarities. But they are different religions with different holy books, and it's therefore inevitable and obvious that they will have different effects on any society they infect.[/QUOTE] But both forget they worship the same god. Man, that's becoming a bigger problem everyday instead of getting smaller now that i think about it.[/QUOTE] nah, contrary to popular belief, Allah is a continuation of an Arabic pagan [url=http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/skm30804.htm]moon god[/url] why do you think that, for example, the start of ramadan is based on moon sightings?[/QUOTE] SAME GOD DAMNIT.
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:47 pm GMT
    MrPraline wrote:
    BossPerson wrote:
    MrPraline wrote:

    nah, contrary to popular belief, Allah is a continuation of an Arabic pagan moon god

    why do you think that, for example, the start of ramadan is based on moon sightings?
    You act like Muslims worship the moon. Not true.

    It's very plausible that Allah was influenced by an Arabic pagan moon god, as the article demonstrates. Of course it's more politically correct to lump it together with the Abrahamic religions, because interfaith dialogue and all. Some things, like the Ramadan aspect I mentioned, are fishy though.
    So you think muslims worship the moon? Or that Muahmmad was talking about the moon when he wrote the Quran?

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    [QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] nah, contrary to popular belief, Allah is a continuation of an Arabic pagan [url=http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/skm30804.htm]moon god[/url] why do you think that, for example, the start of ramadan is based on moon sightings?[/QUOTE]You act like Muslims worship the moon. Not true. [/QUOTE] It's very plausible that Allah was influenced by an Arabic pagan moon god, as the article demonstrates. Of course it's more politically correct to lump it together with the Abrahamic religions, because interfaith dialogue and all. Some things, like the Ramadan aspect I mentioned, are fishy though.[/QUOTE]So you think muslims worship the moon? Or that Muahmmad was talking about the moon when he wrote the Quran?
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  • MrPraline
     
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:48 pm GMT
    GazaAli wrote:
    MrPraline wrote:
    GazaAli wrote:
    Why can't this specific incident be about an abusive husband rather than being about a Muslim one?

    If it's not Islam it's a cultural issue (though both are often more than tied together), both do not really change my message. We just don't want this sh*t in Europe.

    Don't you have European abusive husbands?

    Definitely. They have glorious reasons such as football, alcoholism and ****

    Fact of the matter though is that this guy's actions, and the phenomenon he is now being tied together with, is definitely rooted in Islamic culture.
    digitally married to the wonderful t3hrubikscube
    [QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] Why can't this specific incident be about an abusive husband rather than being about a Muslim one?[/QUOTE] If it's not Islam it's a cultural issue (though both are often more than tied together), both do not really change my message. We just don't want this sh*t in Europe.[/QUOTE] Don't you have European abusive husbands?[/QUOTE] Definitely. They have glorious reasons such as football, alcoholism and **** Fact of the matter though is that this guy's actions, and the phenomenon he is now being tied together with, is definitely rooted in Islamic culture.
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:48 pm GMT
    th3warr1or wrote:
    BossPerson wrote:
    airshocker wrote:

    I don't really care what the Old Testament says. There's a reason it's not acceptad in the West, just like the current form of Islam is unacceptable.

    yet you have no problem condemning Islam because of the Quran when you don;t condemn Christianity or Judaism because of the OT?


    You're kidding right? When's the last time a Jewish man beat the sh*t out of his daughter or his wife for not covering her face? When is the last time the Jews executed someone for adultery and homosexuality? Yeah. That's what I thought.
    you realize Judaism and Christianity had A LOT more time to evolve?

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    [QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

    I don't really care what the Old Testament says. There's a reason it's not acceptad in the West, just like the current form of Islam is unacceptable.

    [/QUOTE]yet you have no problem condemning Islam because of the Quran when you don;t condemn Christianity or Judaism because of the OT? [/QUOTE] You're kidding right? When's the last time a Jewish man beat the sh*t out of his daughter or his wife for not covering her face? When is the last time the Jews executed someone for adultery and homosexuality? Yeah. That's what I thought. [/QUOTE]you realize Judaism and Christianity had A LOT more time to evolve?
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  • GazaAli
     
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:49 pm GMT
    airshocker wrote:

    GazaAli wrote:
    Why is it when a non-Muslim does something horrible we can find a logical excuse to it, but when a Muslim does one we all shout ISLAM? Why can't this specific incident be about an abusive husband rather than being about a Muslim one?

    Because I'm not criticizing what Muslims did 500 years ago. I'm criticizing what they're doing TODAY. Islam promotes this type of behavior. Until it stops I will not stay quiet about how vile it is, like I have in the past.


    What a rebel.

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    [QUOTE="airshocker"]

    [QUOTE="GazaAli"]Why is it when a non-Muslim does something horrible we can find a logical excuse to it, but when a Muslim does one we all shout ISLAM? Why can't this specific incident be about an abusive husband rather than being about a Muslim one?[/QUOTE]

    Because I'm not criticizing what Muslims did 500 years ago. I'm criticizing what they're doing TODAY. Islam promotes this type of behavior. Until it stops I will not stay quiet about how vile it is, like I have in the past.

    [/QUOTE] What a rebel.
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  • StatusShuffle
     
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:49 pm GMT
    kingkong0124 wrote:

    I have to admit there is a flaw somewhere, on both sides (although I think we know which side is doing more damage than the other). For example, a higher percentage of Muslims are integrated to Western Culture in the U.S. than in Europe, despite the fact that they often come from the same regions of the world. It might be because people in America are very tolerant and accepting. I've stated several times in the past that American Muslims are the best kind of Muslims in the whole world.



    No to mention you have that Elijah Mohammad thing going on.
    [QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

    I have to admit there is a flaw somewhere, on both sides (although I think we know which side is doing more damage than the other). For example, a higher percentage of Muslims are integrated to Western Culture in the U.S. than in Europe, despite the fact that they often come from the same regions of the world. It might be because people in America are very tolerant and accepting. I've stated several times in the past that American Muslims are the best kind of Muslims in the whole world.

    [/QUOTE] No to mention you have that Elijah Mohammad thing going on.
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  • kingkong0124
     
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    th3warr1or wrote:

    "In 2007 Islam and Judaism's holiest holidays overlapped for 10 days.
    Muslims racked up 397 dead bodies in 94     terror attacks across 10
    countries during this time... while Jews     worked on their 159th Nobel Prize."

    [QUOTE="th3warr1or"][/QUOTE]

    "In 2007 Islam and Judaism's holiest holidays overlapped for 10 days.
    Muslims racked up 397 dead bodies in 94     terror attacks across 10
    countries during this time... while Jews     worked on their 159th Nobel Prize."

    :lol::lol::lol:

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  • MrPraline
     
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:50 pm GMT
    BossPerson wrote:
    MrPraline wrote:
    BossPerson wrote:
    You act like Muslims worship the moon. Not true.

    It's very plausible that Allah was influenced by an Arabic pagan moon god, as the article demonstrates. Of course it's more politically correct to lump it together with the Abrahamic religions, because interfaith dialogue and all. Some things, like the Ramadan aspect I mentioned, are fishy though.
    So you think muslims worship the moon? Or that Muahmmad was talking about the moon when he wrote the Quran?

    I don't think they actively worship a moon god. It's plausible that that's what Allah was based on long ago though.

    As for Mumammed, guy heard voices so I'm not going to pretend to understand his thoughts back then.
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    [QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]You act like Muslims worship the moon. Not true. [/QUOTE] It's very plausible that Allah was influenced by an Arabic pagan moon god, as the article demonstrates. Of course it's more politically correct to lump it together with the Abrahamic religions, because interfaith dialogue and all. Some things, like the Ramadan aspect I mentioned, are fishy though.[/QUOTE]So you think muslims worship the moon? Or that Muahmmad was talking about the moon when he wrote the Quran? [/QUOTE] I don't think they actively worship a moon god. It's plausible that that's what Allah was based on long ago though. As for Mumammed, guy heard voices so I'm not going to pretend to understand his thoughts back then.
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  • tryagainlater
     
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    Hope he dies.

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    Hope he dies.

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    BossPerson wrote:
    th3warr1or wrote:
    BossPerson wrote:
    yet you have no problem condemning Islam because of the Quran when you don;t condemn Christianity or Judaism because of the OT?


    You're kidding right? When's the last time a Jewish man beat the sh*t out of his daughter or his wife for not covering her face? When is the last time the Jews executed someone for adultery and homosexuality? Yeah. That's what I thought.
    you realize Judaism and Christianity had A LOT more time to evolve?


    There are other religiong no tmentioned that don't to that that came after Islam. No excuses.
    [QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]yet you have no problem condemning Islam because of the Quran when you don;t condemn Christianity or Judaism because of the OT? [/QUOTE] You're kidding right? When's the last time a Jewish man beat the sh*t out of his daughter or his wife for not covering her face? When is the last time the Jews executed someone for adultery and homosexuality? Yeah. That's what I thought. [/QUOTE]you realize Judaism and Christianity had A LOT more time to evolve? [/QUOTE] There are other religiong no tmentioned that don't to that that came after Islam. No excuses.
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:51 pm GMT
    MrPraline wrote:
    GazaAli wrote:
    MrPraline wrote:

    If it's not Islam it's a cultural issue (though both are often more than tied together), both do not really change my message. We just don't want this sh*t in Europe.

    Don't you have European abusive husbands?

    Definitely. They have glorious reasons such as football, alcoholism and ****

    Fact of the matter though is that this guy's actions, and the phenomenon he is now being tied together with, is definitely rooted in Islamic culture.

    There is this subtle difference between having a view that is up to logic and debate, and just wanting to believe in whatever floats your bout. If you truly can't see the point in my posts then Alsalamo alaykom brother Praline.

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    [QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] If it's not Islam it's a cultural issue (though both are often more than tied together), both do not really change my message. We just don't want this sh*t in Europe.[/QUOTE] Don't you have European abusive husbands?[/QUOTE] Definitely. They have glorious reasons such as football, alcoholism and **** Fact of the matter though is that this guy's actions, and the phenomenon he is now being tied together with, is definitely rooted in Islamic culture.[/QUOTE] There is this subtle difference between having a view that is up to logic and debate, and just wanting to believe in whatever floats your bout. If you truly can't see the point in my posts then Alsalamo alaykom brother Praline.
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    StatusShuffle wrote:
    BossPerson wrote:
    th3warr1or wrote:


    You're kidding right? When's the last time a Jewish man beat the sh*t out of his daughter or his wife for not covering her face? When is the last time the Jews executed someone for adultery and homosexuality? Yeah. That's what I thought.
    you realize Judaism and Christianity had A LOT more time to evolve?


    There are other religiong no tmentioned that don't to that that came after Islam. No excuses.
    I;m not saying Islam is a religion of peace or w/e, but people take an ultra simplistic view of it and its followers.

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    [QUOTE="StatusShuffle"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"] You're kidding right? When's the last time a Jewish man beat the sh*t out of his daughter or his wife for not covering her face? When is the last time the Jews executed someone for adultery and homosexuality? Yeah. That's what I thought. [/QUOTE]you realize Judaism and Christianity had A LOT more time to evolve? [/QUOTE] There are other religiong no tmentioned that don't to that that came after Islam. No excuses.[/QUOTE]I;m not saying Islam is a religion of peace or w/e, but people take an ultra simplistic view of it and its followers.
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  • kingkong0124
     
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    Aug 12, 2012 1:52 pm GMT

    BossPerson wrote:
    I;m not saying Islam is a religion of peace or w/e,

    LMAOOO dude....you've continued to have a persecution complex and have defended Islam like a radical.

    [QUOTE="BossPerson"]I;m not saying Islam is a religion of peace or w/e, [/QUOTE]
    LMAOOO dude....you've continued to have a persecution complex and have defended Islam like a radical.

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