From what I see this is going to be a BIG hit in the future. It all depends on the following: 1. Reduce Lag 2. Reduce Cost 3. Increase the software
Company's motion-control technology available for play at Western retail locations; demo software lineup includes Dance Central, Kinectimals, River Rush, and others.
Microsoft debuted its Kinect motion-sensing camera system at last year's E3, and gamers have been reading impressions of the technology ever since. Now they can finally get hands-on with it (in a manner of speaking), as Microsoft is demoing it at its own retail outlets.
The Kinect is available for customers to try today at Microsoft locations in Scottsdale, Arizona; San Diego, California; Mission Viejo, California; and Lone Tree, Colorado. Reached for specifics, Microsoft employees at each outlet (except San Diego, where GameSpot's phone query was not answered) told GameSpot that the Kinect's in-store software lineup included River Rush, Dance Central, Kinect Adventures, Kinectimals, and others.
In 2009, Microsoft announced that it would open physical retail outlets to compete with Apple's brick-and-mortar presence. In addition to the Kinect showing, Microsoft retail outlets sell Zunes, Xbox 360s, Windows-based computers, and other company properties.
...seems interesting, but i actually find the comments more entertaining than the actual post. i'd prefer to try out the product before i make a finalize decision about whether i like it or not...
@MSG-Deathscythe So how was E3? Were you there as a member of the press or are you part of the gaming industry? As a member of the press, your spelling and grammar are atrocious. As a member of the industry, I don't think it would be wise to make your fanboyism public by labeling a billion dollar corporation "biggest e3 loser". What are your thoughts on the 3DS? What about Move? One more thing to call out your BS. I work in the industry, had colleagues there, and not one of them mentioned that Star Wars game had a playable demo available to the attendees.
do the idiots complaning about not being able play shooters with Kinetic also complain about not being able to play the same shooters with a racing wheel
This just in, the majority of the posts in this have degenerated into nothing more then the retards from the console wars bickering back and forth. That's really very shocking...
i tried this at E3 and yes, Kinect really suk big time. it feels so weird when you are trying to swing a lightsaber and your hand does not feel any weight in it. even worse is when you are stepping on an imaginary auto accelerator and there is no force to carry your foot nor push it back like a real gas pedal. and microsoft is selling this for $150.00? it is typical of their products - crappy and expensive. only they could copy a technology, charge more for it but produce a worse product. biggest E3 losers.
[QUOTE="Decessus"][/QUOTE]Those condescending folk, unpleasant though they may be at times, are the last bastion of gaming diversity and quality. These casual gamers that have every right to enjoy a ~$200 virtual animal prodding adventure generally don't seem to care what they play, so long as the happy neurons light up for 15 minutes a week. Publishers can see this pretty easily, and that's why things like "Kinectimals" have existed in countless variations over the years, because the humble casual gamer won't stop buying the same thing over and over, no matter how awful or monotonous it gets. A real gamer is the type of consumer responsible for the industry's existence. A casual gamer is the type of consumer responsible for it's eventual fall, something for which a condescending implication isn't entirely inappropriate.
So, has anyone actually been able to try this and provide some type of legitimate feedback? PM me if you have, please. I'm interested in knowing if people like playing it or not. Notice I said "playing" and not price or concept. I don't care how many people think this will fail. I just want to know if it is fun. Fun is the reason I play video games.
whoever invented kinectimals and thought of the name skittles is going to hell. i do agree they'll probably sucker millions into buying it for their kids though
@supershyguy65: I dunno...I personally think playing a first person RPG would be kinda cool, I mean as long as they find out a way to get the turns down...Or just like a mortal kombat/any type of fighting game thats first person. Granted titles like Mirrors Edge could be difficult; would I wall run in the air after vaulting over my couch while trying to escape from the cops after snapping my lamp post's neck? I mean obviously theres flaws, but same thing with everything else that comes out.
I am going to guess 4 people cannot play at the same time using one Kinect unless Microsoft already said you could somewhere. They would have used that as a huge selling point otherwise.
I love how Microsoft seems to think that no controller is genius. Has anybody ever played a game while thinking "This would be better without a controller."?
@SithLordVenom: Not certain the primary concern is whether an Xbox 360 add-on is necessary, rather, the issue appears to be the price point at which Microsoft plans to sell Kinect. At $150, the cost of an Xbox 360 Arcade console, the price seems somewhat exorbitant. This, of course, doesn't include the cost of the forthcoming Kinect games.
I'm buying one. I'm thinking about pre-ordering it now. Honestly, it's cheaper than my Rock band set when that came out. This has 4 player for every game that comes out for 150 bucks. no extra peripherals. and its going to teach me to dance. yes, a nerd is going to learn to dance. take that society!
I love people on here saying it wont work it wont sell who would buy this. lol you people said the same thing about the wii and look how that turned out. before posting know a little about consumerism cause in the eyes on microsoft sony and nintendo casual will ALWAYS WIN.
Can someone list all the stores where this will be playable at so I can go to them and laugh at the people looking like idiots
I think developers will need to be creative. Not sure if they will be willing to take the risk. As you said, response times will not be the same which is a pretty big deal for things like shooters. I hope they can make up for it with immersion, voice recognition, etc. Who knows, maybe some entirley new genres will grow out of this. I'm pretty sure I will be buying it. Even if it never gets beyond the party/fitness games, I have young kids and family that will eat that stuff up.
Im with you, its a step forward if there werent wheels out, however the fact a good wheel is about the same price as the kinect itself your point is even more valid. I just dont see how they will get around no buttons, but I have an xbox and I'm eager for it... I would love to see a First Person RPG, the next and final step is making.. glasses or some way to remove the living room and having full body control with you "IN" the world.. maybe Xbox720?
So sliding your foot forward to simulate pushing a gas pedal is less immersive than pulling a trigger or pushing a button? I agree with you that a racing wheel is less immersive than just using your hands, but using your hands is more immersive than an analog stick.
mnvike, think about that for a moment, I have all the systems and as much as I think the Kinect tech is "Neat" in racing games like forza and GT I dont think sliding your foot will be responsive enough, i mean I guess you could get use to it.. but doesnt that rip away immersion, the steering wheel is still king of immersion for racing games, and you gotta have buttons.. not sure how they will get past that.
Why can't you control forward and backward motion? In racing demo's sliding your foot forward gives the car gas. Can't you slide your foot forward to move forward? Slide your foot back to move back. The software maps out a bunch of points in your skeletons. When you think about it, they now have way more buttons then they've ever had on any controller. Devs will just need to be creative. I think about 10 - 12 months from now, you will start to see some REALLY cool games come out of this. For now, they are keeping it simple and you are correct. Most games will be party type games done on 'rails'.
No way to control forward and backward motion = nothing but pointless shovelware for the future software lineup. I'll pass on this considering what I just said and the fact that the on stage demos at E3 were way out of sync.
@ Isshiah Unforunatly u can't. Teryarch has cornformed that the motion controllers for both the Xbox 360(Kinect) and PS3(Playstation Move) will not be used. I Play the PS3 but just scan through the kinect articals
@ XThreat Well you could use a normal controller with it but that completely defeats the point on natal err "kinect" I mean
its a failure because there no way to to control forward and backward motion, the wii and Move u have a analoge stick
@SithLordVenom Well said man, well said. Personally I think Kinect will wipe the floor with the Wii's motion controls. They didn't even get it right the first time. They had to come out with that Wii motion plus crap. Coming from an ex Wii owner, the motion controls and games are overrated. Just my 2 cents.
Sigh I said this in another post but: Why do people offer wii when an xbox is a totally different platform? I feel like you telling me, "Hey don't get kinect, get a wii and be stuck with a system you probably won't like, and you can't play your already bought xbox games on." If I like my xbox what makes you think i am going to get a wii if i want motion sensing? Why not buy a kinect, then i don't have to worry about wii, right? I mean besides mario, zelda, and metroid, what else do they really have? All you people suggesting wii really need to sit down and look at that. This kinect is just an addon. You are telling people to sacrifice getting an xbox system and kinect for a wii if you want motion controls. What if people want to turn off motion control and play a shooter online? Can wii do that? Nope your stuck on a fixed platform. The word of the day is ADDON! To add to that this is targeted for family game. Is microsft really a failure because they want to expand their product? Are they failure's before release because they want families involved in gaming? Are they failures because this tech will nine times out of ten still live on in our world as another product on the market and 3d right behind if not already consumer accepted? People need to get real. If you don't like it fine. But how can anyone call it a failure before release? To me, you just want to be called an idiot.
@huerito323 There's a difference between a $250 system with a pack in game and built in motion controls compared to a $150 peripheral on top of an already $200-300 console, not to mention a $50 dollar a year online service. That adds up.
@huerito323 Agree with you. I am rather skeptical about Kinetic but you do make a very good point. It may just turn out to be a great hit just like Wii. *Fingers crossed* Thumbs up to you!
I'm not buying this, it's too costly and I don't wanna look like a idiot slinging my arms and jumping up and down in front of the TV with my friends and family gawking at me like I'm retarded.
Everyone talked a lot of crap about the Wii before it came out, and look what happened. It's the best selling console of this generation. It's been very successful. Why don't you all stfu and wait for this to come out before you make yourself look like a dumb@ss once you actually love it and buy it and start making posts about how cool your kinect is.
no texas?? aww. i think that ps move will be cool, since i always wanted a wii with good graphics, but im on the fence about kinect, since no controller is the last straw from jumping infront of the tv like an idiot. need to try it.
@slayersdeath200 I compare this whole notion of "real gamer" to the idea of a "true fan" in sports. If I root for a certain team, but can't name every single player, his or her stats, what college they went to, what they like to eat for breakfast, ect.. then some people will say that I'm not really a fan. Doesn't this sound like complete nonsense to you?In my opinion, this whole notion of true gamers exists because it allows a person to have a vague sense of superiority over another person. Since there is no definition for it nor is there any basis in reality for it, a person can use it however they want and there is no rational way to argue against it. I think we would be better off if we just decided that people have different tastes and one isn't any better than the other and leave it at that.
@parrot_of_adun I would first argue that just because you cannot think of ways in which the Playstation Move and Microsoft's Kinect can be used for core games doesn't mean that they do not exist. Whether you like Sony or Microsoft, you cannot deny that they do employ some pretty creative and talented people. If they decide they would like to create games using Move and Kinect that cater to hardcore gamers, then I have no reason to believe that they can't do it.The bigger issue that I have with this whole idea of "real gamers" is the fact that most of the people who use the term use it in a very condescending way. They believe that the video game world revolves around them and that any product that is not directly created or marketed to them is worthless and that people who buy them are worthless.Games exist to provide enjoyment. How is the enjoyment someone gets from playing a game like Killzone 3 on the Playstation 3 worth more than the enjoyment that someone gets from playing Kinectimals on the Kinect?
Too early to tell on this. Don't know how everyone has already made their mind up already on this and move before they've come up. I remember similar things being said about the wii before it released.
@ Decessus I will answer that question for you. A real gamer has a vast knolwlege of all systems in the current gen and the previous ones and has played vast amount of hours on each system he or she owns, A gamer who plays all consoles and dosnt defend or put down one unless it is a total failure and deserves it (gizmondo). A real gamer is either into the ps move and kinect or niether. A real gamer likes both Mario and Sonic, hope you get where im going, you cannot be called a true gamer if you are a fan boy yes you may prefer another game but in essence you still like it.
@Decessus @TheDreamSeeker A real gamer is someone to whom videogames are at least a hobby, as opposed to a casual gamer, who generally doesn't play much, and rarely buys games that require any time investment. dreamseeker, I'm assuming you belong to the latter category. That, or you're a fanperson of sorts, and thusly cannot tolerate a just slight against MS. A core gamer is an enthusiast. Kinect is not made for these people, and will never successfully reach them. The Move is similarly "core-unfriendly", but at least allows for light-gun games and a better way to play console RTSs, making for a scant few uses for a core gamer. But neither are really worth it.
I definitely won't be buying one. I love my Xbox, but I just want to sit down and press some buttons. I don't want to dance all around my living room trying to make some virtual cat jump.
@kingisaactheiv or Mass Effect or Forza or Alan Wake. You will find MS have a lot of games you wont find on PS3
Instead of this Kinect foolishness, MS NEEDS to focus on exclusives NOT NAMED HALO OR GEARS OF WAR!!! #imjustsayin
@TJORLY I agree, Kinect lacks appeal to hardcore gamers. You will never be able to play a FPS. As far as it goes I think you would only be able to play sports games and whatnot. Atleast Move has sometype of controller that goes along with the motion senser. The Socom demo looked great. Sorry MS I think my money will be going to Sony this time. And don't tell me I'm a fanboy. I play all my systems equally and I choose whatever would be more of a logical choice. But I won't lie, I don't like Microsoft in the firstplace but I do love my 360. In this case Move is more logical choice though. Common sense.
Oh ya, on just about every user post there are thumbs downs. Whoever is doing this must be some retard 10 year old that thinks Kinect is gonna have a core titles not just casual. I could rate down all day like you, but I have a life.
All I know is my daughter has a wii. And as soon as she seen Kinectimals on E3 she been begging me to get it for her. Graphics may not mean anything to me. But she flipped head over heals and wondered why her wii don't look like that. No point to the story really. I was getting one anyways.
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