The Paradox of DLC
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- Jun 1, 2012 8:05 am GMTWhile I'm gladly justifying in my mind why I bought all the DLC so far, it doesn't help quell the deeper truth of scammage. I understand Namco was rushed to finish SCV, and for a "rushed" product, at least they tinkered the gameplay enough to make up for whatever other content may be missing. Be it galleries, story mode for other characters, but most importantly for the sake of this topic: creation equipment!
SCIV had a fair deal with the DLC iirc. It already came with unlockable and very usuable equipment because many of the parts were stripped from everyone's 2p costumes, and the optional DLC wasn't as important, but there nonetheless if you wanted to spend some chump change for extra aesthetic improvements.
I feel that SCV got miffed with creation parts and whether it was intended or not, they have monopolized on our love of creation. How can you not love making your own character? It keeps the game feeling visually fresh all the while you maintain and build your skills for characters you choose to main.
SCV's default equipment is so sub par, but with that, I have to justify for myself that it's alright to spend a lil extra coin on a game I already bought at full price--just so my creations can have some decent looking equipment.
DLC when it first came out seemed like a good idea, and so far the only true DLC I've found actually worth it is BlazBlue characters, Arkham City characters, and most recently ArkhamCity's TWO HOUR campaign.
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R But for simple aesthetic changes...who finds the value in paying for that? (clearly me, but who does so without the feeling of being scammed for things that should ALREADY be there with the game you paid for in full price)
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We can waste time arguing, or we can get things done! - Jun 1, 2012 2:34 pm GMTThey shouldn't be charging for DLC parts that are ripped off from actual characters' costumes as literally all of the information is already on-disk and ready to use. They just relabel it and reclassify it as something else so CAS characters can use it and charge for it.
But for everything else, I'm ok with paying for. I just wish Namco would remove these stupid limitations on CAS. They're supposed to be there to prevent clipping, but why don't you let us have the freedom of choice in whether or not to experiment with what clips?
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XBL GT: ReptileAssassin. Fighting game specialist - Jun 1, 2012 3:27 pm GMTIts called "inflation", and the US dollar is losing value compared to the Japanese Yen, so from 2008 they are now making 20% less revenue return per unit sold, that means they need to re-coop their losses somehow. I mean people pay 100$ for games in Australia, look what inflation did to them.
Capcom wants to sell us a game, then cut out parts of it like Resident Evil ORC, because then they don't have to raise the game's sale price to 20$, they can just sell for 60$, and you have the option to pay for more content. You must understand how businesses work, they aren't designed to "honor" people, and they aren't "obligated" to do anything for free, or nice. Businesses need profits to stay alive, inflation is robbing them of that..
Instead of calling Namco and Capcom companies "scammers" you should really focus your hatred towards your government and demand budget reforms, (President Obama hasn't even proposed 1 major budget cut since 2009 might I add.. instead offered to RAISE TAXES with a socialized medicare system, which will fail, just like is HAS, and is DOING right now in Great Britain.)
@SC5 DLC, I see nothing wrong with added more costumes to the game, I encourage it, if people are passionate about their custom character creations, and are willing to spend more money to be further catered to, then by all means add more and more DLC please. You can make the same argument why high end 5 Star rated hotels charge more then a low end 3 star hotel. You want more? You pay more, real life facts.
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Dragon Lord rank: Jin Kazama | http://www.youtube.com/user/KyojiroInc - Jun 1, 2012 4:10 pm GMTPolitics have no place in this discussion and nothing to do with the topic at hand. Introducing politics to the discussion only detracts from the validity of it rather than adding to it. Drop the subject and please limit your discussion to the topic at hand rather than trying to coerce people into agreeing with you by bringing up politics.
That said, I have an abundance of mixed feelings on SCV's character editor. On one hand, the greater freedom is nice but again there's the relative lack of parts without DLC. Even with the on-disc DLC parts there is still less than SCIV or SCIII to work with. Understandable, yet still regretful.
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- Jun 1, 2012 11:38 pm GMTKazama, you make a very good and relevant point. The effect is overabundance of DLC that should have otherwise been available from the get go. The CAUSE though on all gaming DLC in general is the inflation. I don't know why I didn't stop to think about how even the video game industry (as big as it is today) to struggle in tough economic times.
Ah yes, the state likes to ruin everything. It's like a cancer. It thinks its helpful, but really it just eats away at the entire infastructure. I'm betting that if it wasn't for the state's intervention on the economy, we'd have all SCV CaS DLC once we buy the game. The REAL DLC would probably story mode for each character or even MORE DLC equipment, but stuff from previous SC's with updated graphics. - Jun 2, 2012 2:26 pm GMTRubedoXT posted...
Kazama, you make a very good and relevant point. The effect is overabundance of DLC that should have otherwise been available from the get go. The CAUSE though on all gaming DLC in general is the inflation. I don't know why I didn't stop to think about how even the video game industry (as big as it is today) to struggle in tough economic times.
Ah yes, the state likes to ruin everything. It's like a cancer. It thinks its helpful, but really it just eats away at the entire infastructure. I'm betting that if it wasn't for the state's intervention on the economy, we'd have all SCV CaS DLC once we buy the game. The REAL DLC would probably story mode for each character or even MORE DLC equipment, but stuff from previous SC's with updated graphics.
Yes exactly! And I am also thankful that the baseline price of video games new, has not risen since 2005! That's a lot better than other countries, such as Japan, where even if you converted your US dollars to Yen, you would then pay around $80 for a brand new game. Some european countries pay around $90 USD if you convert your currency into euros.
The whole DLC things such as in Street Fighter x Tekken, and other games locking content is usually a ploy to raise more money while cutting development costs. Pretty efficient to be compensated for work you were already previously made profits off. I understand why people hate Capcom so much for these practices, but then again, if Capcom turned around and said to people "The game now costs $80." people would throw a fit because they don't see the game valued at $80.
DLC is a great idea in itself, the idea of DLC is to add more content to a game, and add more personal value with yourself. DLC has sort of been tainted with greed the last couple of months by various game developers. I mean you can't blame anyone for being upset at paying for content that was made unavailable to them day 1.
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Dragon Lord rank: Jin Kazama | http://www.youtube.com/user/KyojiroInc - Jun 2, 2012 2:54 pm GMTWandrian posted...
Politics have no place in this discussion and nothing to do with the topic at hand. Introducing politics to the discussion only detracts from the validity of it rather than adding to it. Drop the subject and please limit your discussion to the topic at hand rather than trying to coerce people into agreeing with you by bringing up politics.
That said, I have an abundance of mixed feelings on SCV's character editor. On one hand, the greater freedom is nice but again there's the relative lack of parts without DLC. Even with the on-disc DLC parts there is still less than SCIV or SCIII to work with. Understandable, yet still regretful.
Don't know if you are trolling or just follow like a sheep to the social media, and think "What happens above me and my family, shouldn't drip down onto me.. should it?" Be real with yourself.. Politics effect us ALL. Your a fool for looking at it any other way, to think raising taxes won't effect you a lot? To enforcing high taxes and regulations on business owners causing them to ship their business overseas somehow WONT effect your ability to find a job in the future? Socializing the school funds to be paid back by government grants, somehow won't mean the market will be flooded with young people with worthless degrees? An employer will say "Wow, I have 500 people qualified for this position, but only 30 job openings..." HAPPY HUNTING THERE CHAMP!
"Politics" is just a word simple people pass on to describe the worthless PR game that is played by the news media, and how many attack adds can be run about who / what. The bottom line is, what stupid little laws and regulations they pass upstairs, effects us ALL! Back in 2008 Full Tilt Poker was a BILLION dollar company, they even sponsored UFC events and Bud Light commercials. Then George W Bush passed a law in 2008 against online gambling, the result? November 2010, the owners of online business, such a Full Tilt Poker had their owner extradited to the US, his assets liquidated or frozen, and the whole company had 9.8 billion dollars taken by the government. That's REAL politics for you, what you were doing back in 2007 for massive profit gains, now lands you in prison? All because some Liberal / Conservative supporters thought online gambling was a bad thing.
Much like the government did back in 1920 - 1933 with prohibition on the enforced ban of alcohol. Putting thousands of people in jail, all for what? Ever wonder why Brothels are legal in other countries but not ours? Some stupid law was passed by liberals trying to preserve America? I even heard some Liberal conservatives trying to pass a government mandated Bible law, where people have to read the Bible for at least 1 hour a day. YEAH! And as sad and pathetic as that sounds, sadly it is a true story.
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Dragon Lord rank: Jin Kazama | http://www.youtube.com/user/KyojiroInc - Jun 3, 2012 12:21 am GMTKazamaKojinrai posted...
Wandrian posted...
Politics have no place in this discussion and nothing to do with the topic at hand. Introducing politics to the discussion only detracts from the validity of it rather than adding to it. Drop the subject and please limit your discussion to the topic at hand rather than trying to coerce people into agreeing with you by bringing up politics.
That said, I have an abundance of mixed feelings on SCV's character editor. On one hand, the greater freedom is nice but again there's the relative lack of parts without DLC. Even with the on-disc DLC parts there is still less than SCIV or SCIII to work with. Understandable, yet still regretful.
Don't know if you are trolling or just follow like a sheep to the social media, and think "What happens above me and my family, shouldn't drip down onto me.. should it?" Be real with yourself.. Politics effect us ALL. Your a fool for looking at it any other way, to think raising taxes won't effect you a lot? To enforcing high taxes and regulations on business owners causing them to ship their business overseas somehow WONT effect your ability to find a job in the future? Socializing the school funds to be paid back by government grants, somehow won't mean the market will be flooded with young people with worthless degrees? An employer will say "Wow, I have 500 people qualified for this position, but only 30 job openings..." HAPPY HUNTING THERE CHAMP!
"Politics" is just a word simple people pass on to describe the worthless PR game that is played by the news media, and how many attack adds can be run about who / what. The bottom line is, what stupid little laws and regulations they pass upstairs, effects us ALL! Back in 2008 Full Tilt Poker was a BILLION dollar company, they even sponsored UFC events and Bud Light commercials. Then George W Bush passed a law in 2008 against online gambling, the result? November 2010, the owners of online business, such a Full Tilt Poker had their owner extradited to the US, his assets liquidated or frozen, and the whole company had 9.8 billion dollars taken by the government. That's REAL politics for you, what you were doing back in 2007 for massive profit gains, now lands you in prison? All because some Liberal / Conservative supporters thought online gambling was a bad thing.
Much like the government did back in 1920 - 1933 with prohibition on the enforced ban of alcohol. Putting thousands of people in jail, all for what? Ever wonder why Brothels are legal in other countries but not ours? Some stupid law was passed by liberals trying to preserve America? I even heard some Liberal conservatives trying to pass a government mandated Bible law, where people have to read the Bible for at least 1 hour a day. YEAH! And as sad and pathetic as that sounds, sadly it is a true story.
The way both the government and the video game industry behave these days they should both be destroyed and wiped away to make room for a new, better world.
Problem solved!
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I hate patches! - Jun 3, 2012 2:57 am GMTKingJames304 posted...
KazamaKojinrai posted...
Wandrian posted...
Politics have no place in this discussion and nothing to do with the topic at hand. Introducing politics to the discussion only detracts from the validity of it rather than adding to it. Drop the subject and please limit your discussion to the topic at hand rather than trying to coerce people into agreeing with you by bringing up politics.
That said, I have an abundance of mixed feelings on SCV's character editor. On one hand, the greater freedom is nice but again there's the relative lack of parts without DLC. Even with the on-disc DLC parts there is still less than SCIV or SCIII to work with. Understandable, yet still regretful.
Don't know if you are trolling or just follow like a sheep to the social media, and think "What happens above me and my family, shouldn't drip down onto me.. should it?" Be real with yourself.. Politics effect us ALL. Your a fool for looking at it any other way, to think raising taxes won't effect you a lot? To enforcing high taxes and regulations on business owners causing them to ship their business overseas somehow WONT effect your ability to find a job in the future? Socializing the school funds to be paid back by government grants, somehow won't mean the market will be flooded with young people with worthless degrees? An employer will say "Wow, I have 500 people qualified for this position, but only 30 job openings..." HAPPY HUNTING THERE CHAMP!
"Politics" is just a word simple people pass on to describe the worthless PR game that is played by the news media, and how many attack adds can be run about who / what. The bottom line is, what stupid little laws and regulations they pass upstairs, effects us ALL! Back in 2008 Full Tilt Poker was a BILLION dollar company, they even sponsored UFC events and Bud Light commercials. Then George W Bush passed a law in 2008 against online gambling, the result? November 2010, the owners of online business, such a Full Tilt Poker had their owner extradited to the US, his assets liquidated or frozen, and the whole company had 9.8 billion dollars taken by the government. That's REAL politics for you, what you were doing back in 2007 for massive profit gains, now lands you in prison? All because some Liberal / Conservative supporters thought online gambling was a bad thing.
Much like the government did back in 1920 - 1933 with prohibition on the enforced ban of alcohol. Putting thousands of people in jail, all for what? Ever wonder why Brothels are legal in other countries but not ours? Some stupid law was passed by liberals trying to preserve America? I even heard some Liberal conservatives trying to pass a government mandated Bible law, where people have to read the Bible for at least 1 hour a day. YEAH! And as sad and pathetic as that sounds, sadly it is a true story.
The way both the government and the video game industry behave these days they should both be destroyed and wiped away to make room for a new, better world.
Problem solved!
Agreed, the world needs a hard reset
(That's a lot of quote O_o)
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*floats away in a bubble* - Jun 3, 2012 7:56 am GMTNot so much a reset than an evolution of what we already have.
On the political subject: I would just prefer a stateless society where no one has their hands in our pockets (taxes), and our money truly is our own hard earned coin. The liberties they divide among political parties would be unified to provide us all the liberties we should have to begin with, WITHOUT the intervention of a (illusory) higher power. The value and cost of things would be much more reasonable if this were the case, and it'd probably easier to engage in free market exchange because there's no one "looking out for your best interests" like an overzealous parent who thinks their word is THE word just because they hold some fictitious role of authority.
In regard to the DLC: I accept that I'm getting SORT of scammed, but I am the one voluntarily choosing to purchase it because my need for making cool looking characters trumps my concern over money. I guess I'm on the fence because I still believe SCV character equipment should be the default stuff you unlock. What video games lack these days are worthwhile unlockables that you can actually utilize to refresh the replay value. MAYBE the modern and mostly useless DLC would still be optional DLC, but it's a massive punking if the coolest stuff has to be paid for with extra cash.
Push aside the arguement that I should've waited for the game to drop in price, well I wanted it new and wanted it NOW lol so I ended up paying full price. That full price (all thanks to tax making it all that much more expensive) should count the cost of DLC that should've been default content.
With that said, I can't wait for Tuesday's pack to come out, and all of a sudden, this topic's sudden turn has gotten me concerning more over the state of the world than measley money issues regarding the vidya.
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We can waste time arguing, or we can get things done! - Jun 3, 2012 6:40 pm GMTKazamaKojinrai posted...
Its called "inflation", and the US dollar is losing value compared to the Japanese Yen, so from 2008 they are now making 20% less revenue return per unit sold, that means they need to re-coop their losses somehow. I mean people pay 100$ for games in Australia, look what inflation did to them.
Capcom wants to sell us a game, then cut out parts of it like Resident Evil ORC, because then they don't have to raise the game's sale price to 20$, they can just sell for 60$, and you have the option to pay for more content. You must understand how businesses work, they aren't designed to "honor" people, and they aren't "obligated" to do anything for free, or nice. Businesses need profits to stay alive, inflation is robbing them of that..
Instead of calling Namco and Capcom companies "scammers" you should really focus your hatred towards your government and demand budget reforms, (President Obama hasn't even proposed 1 major budget cut since 2009 might I add.. instead offered to RAISE TAXES with a socialized medicare system, which will fail, just like is HAS, and is DOING right now in Great Britain.)
@SC5 DLC, I see nothing wrong with added more costumes to the game, I encourage it, if people are passionate about their custom character creations, and are willing to spend more money to be further catered to, then by all means add more and more DLC please. You can make the same argument why high end 5 Star rated hotels charge more then a low end 3 star hotel. You want more? You pay more, real life facts.
This is the dumbest thing I've read in a while. Game companies use DLC to make more money. Companies will always try to make more money regardless of inflation. Inflation is a completely irrelevant point here. DLC is just a new way to make money not a result of inflation. And blaming the whole thing on Obama is just stupid. I won't get into a political debate here because it will just cause a flame war, which is why you never should have brought politics into this topic in the first place.
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"Your madness! How it SHINES like a BACON!" - Jun 3, 2012 9:50 pm GMTI wouldn't blame Obama for any of the ways society gets crippled...I just blame the state.
Obviously there's no empirical evidence to prove that DLC business is affected by inflation, so we've reached an empass here.
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We can waste time arguing, or we can get things done! - Jun 4, 2012 5:03 am GMT[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]
- Jun 4, 2012 5:21 am GMTRubedoXT posted...
I wouldn't blame Obama for any of the ways society gets crippled...I just blame the state.
Obviously there's no empirical evidence to prove that DLC business is affected by inflation, so we've reached an empass here.
Do you want some rock hard facts Rubedo? If so, then I shall provide them:
For 10 years I ran an online business where I would regularly convert my US dollars into Yen (Japanese currency) to pay my workers over seas.
- In June 2012, for every 1 US dollar, will get you 78 Yen.
- In June 2004, for every 1 US dollar would get you 104.6 Yen. Thats huge!
- So considering the price of games has not jumped since 2005 (still being at 60$ game retail value) means for 2012 developers they are getting about 18.5% less of a return on each unit sold, that's not including renters, or people who buy games used.
- So in order to get that 18.5% back, they are selling DLC for about 15$ retail value, to help compensate.
- MK and Battle Field 3 franchises are doing this now too, making you pay 15$ for a pass code to play online, to prevent renters and used game buyers from playing online for free. (It gives them an incentive to pay more money for the game.)
Hope everyone had some head gear, for I'm hitting you with facts baby!
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Dragon Lord rank: Jin Kazama | http://www.youtube.com/user/KyojiroInc - Jun 4, 2012 5:23 am GMTMeanGreenLuigi posted...
This is the dumbest thing I've read in a while. Game companies use DLC to make more money. Companies will always try to make more money regardless of inflation. Inflation is a completely irrelevant point here. DLC is just a new way to make money not a result of inflation. And blaming the whole thing on Obama is just stupid. I won't get into a political debate here because it will just cause a flame war, which is why you never should have brought politics into this topic in the first place.
1: What a moronic thing to say "Inflation is irrelevant." Actually no, it's not, its the CORE of the problem. Are you too uneducated to know how printing money effects EVERY single industry, inside and outside of the USA?Even small Japanese fishing companies that sell exported goods to america! Hence why the price of Tuna, swordfish, and Eel have all gone up, thus the price of Sushi has gone up.. So then should I complain that the sushi store is greedy for raising its prices by 15%? Need I continue making you look foolish? Lol
And if you actually read my paragraphs (which you most likely just breezed through thoughtlessly..) You would have read that I did not blame Obama for the sole cause, I blamed his administration, and policies, that does not fall solely upon the shoulders of Obama.
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Dragon Lord rank: Jin Kazama | http://www.youtube.com/user/KyojiroInc - Jun 4, 2012 5:54 am GMTThe root of the problem is costs have risen significantly this cycle compared to last, due to team sizes having to go way up, and the revenue hasn't risen at the same rate. Thanks to a weak economy and social and iOS games at a buck or less, the console game developers are unable to raise the base price of games. Both costs and revenue in this scenario have little or nothing to do with inflation, and everything to do with the internal dynamics of the games business.
The exchange rate will be a factor when any company reports earnings, which affects their share price, but them saying, "We made X yen last year", doesn't mean they converted every single dollar and euro into yen. This is a global industry with global offices and sales in many countries. The money from game sales in one country can stay in that country, which is probably one good reason why Square Enix expanded by buying Eidos, so they could spend their dollars and euros income on development in those countries.
The Federal Reserve is an enormous factor when it comes to money printing, inflation, and policies which lead to housing bubbles etc., and they are independent of President and party.
Anyway, since companies can't raise revenue from everyone, they have realized that fans are often willing to spend more, so they now provide outlets for fans to do that. It's the same premise with F2P games on PC and iOS, they enable fans to spend and spend which keeps the base price low. Personally I think the SCV DLC is over-priced, but I also don't feel entitled to every piece of SCV content that anyone working for or contracted by Namco creates at any time. I am entitled to what they put in the box and I will pay $60 or $30 or $20 or nothing for that, as I see fit. - Jun 4, 2012 6:16 am GMTKazamaKojinrai posted...
MeanGreenLuigi posted...
This is the dumbest thing I've read in a while. Game companies use DLC to make more money. Companies will always try to make more money regardless of inflation. Inflation is a completely irrelevant point here. DLC is just a new way to make money not a result of inflation. And blaming the whole thing on Obama is just stupid. I won't get into a political debate here because it will just cause a flame war, which is why you never should have brought politics into this topic in the first place.
1: What a moronic thing to say "Inflation is irrelevant." Actually no, it's not, its the CORE of the problem. Are you too uneducated to know how printing money effects EVERY single industry, inside and outside of the USA?Even small Japanese fishing companies that sell exported goods to america! Hence why the price of Tuna, swordfish, and Eel have all gone up, thus the price of Sushi has gone up.. So then should I complain that the sushi store is greedy for raising its prices by 15%? Need I continue making you look foolish? Lol
And if you actually read my paragraphs (which you most likely just breezed through thoughtlessly..) You would have read that I did not blame Obama for the sole cause, I blamed his administration, and policies, that does not fall solely upon the shoulders of Obama.
As inflation increases so do the prices of products. The concept you are not understanding is that DLC is not an increase of price, it is a new product. If there was no inflation they would still charge you for it because they can. Corporations have a responsibility to increase share holder wealth. They will do this in any economic situation.
Inflation has been happening since long before Obama. And nobody cares what you think of his policies so keep your opinions to yourself.
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"Your madness! How it SHINES like a BACON!" - Jun 4, 2012 11:00 am GMTRepublicans ftl.
- Jun 4, 2012 2:36 pm GMTMeanGreenLuigi posted...
As inflation increases so do the prices of products. The concept you are not understanding is that DLC is not an increase of price, it is a new product. If there was no inflation they would still charge you for it because they can. Corporations have a responsibility to increase share holder wealth. They will do this in any economic situation.
Inflation has been happening since long before Obama. And nobody cares what you think of his policies so keep your opinions to yourself.
Hey yo kid with his head in the sand preaching nonsense!
"Inflation makes the prices of everything go up.." yeah and games are still $60 retail brand new right? Right? So... DLC is there way of compensating the cost but without raising a games value to over $60 brand new.. like in Australia games are 100$ brand new.. Thats why companies are using online passes and DLC so much these days.... duuur...
MeanGreenLuigi you'r not too smart are you?......
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youtube.com/ermkane6 - Jun 4, 2012 3:20 pm GMTHaru_XX posted...
MeanGreenLuigi posted...
As inflation increases so do the prices of products. The concept you are not understanding is that DLC is not an increase of price, it is a new product. If there was no inflation they would still charge you for it because they can. Corporations have a responsibility to increase share holder wealth. They will do this in any economic situation.
Inflation has been happening since long before Obama. And nobody cares what you think of his policies so keep your opinions to yourself.
Hey yo kid with his head in the sand preaching nonsense!
"Inflation makes the prices of everything go up.." yeah and games are still $60 retail brand new right? Right? So... DLC is there (their) way of compensating the cost but without raising a games value to over $60 brand new.. like in Australia games are 100$ brand new.. Thats why companies are using online passes and DLC so much these days.... duuur...
MeanGreenLuigi you'r (you're) not too smart are you?......
And yet they still sell DLC to Australia, so whose point did you just prove? Mine because I'm the one who said they will increase the prices due to inflation, but they will always charge you for DLC because it's an extra product to sell you. You think if there was no inflation they would give away DLC for free? If what you're saying is right then Australia's prices would be the same as US prices and they're not according to you. And going off of your logic how do you account for the low prices of games without any DLC? Durr yourself.
And I'd also like to know something. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you Cat Girl? If so that's reason enough for me to disregard anything you say.
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