New to fighters and I hate being bad. Somebody throw me some advice?
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Jun 15, 2012 10:00 am GMT
you can play with a pad, but its going to be a lot more difficult specifically for this game than playing on a stick. marvel vs capcom 3 and blazblue are a lot more pad friendly, but for ssf4 you just have to get used to a control setup thats comfortable for you. I play this game on pad, but I dont have a triple kick button. To do triple kick I have to press A + B + RB, but due to that I dont use characters that actually need it.
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Jun 15, 2012 10:25 am GMT
if you don't want to buy a stick, at least pick up a proper fightpad. A lot of people will probably **** bricks when I say this, but it almost isn't worth trying to learn fighting games using an ordinary xbox controller. You're putting yourself at a disadvantage.
I like my Madcatz pad a lot, and they are reasonably priced. You get 6 face buttons, like on a stick, but still have a dpad (which is a LOT better than the dpad or crappy analog stick on a regular controller).
It really is a case of the more time you put into it, the better you're going to get.
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Jun 15, 2012 4:08 pm GMT
The pdp fightpad is like 15$ and has the guts and layout of a stick with a weird hybrid thumb-stick. Only problem is that it breaks easily if you drop it, but for 15$, it's not as intimidating an investment for someone just starting to play.
http://tinyurl.com/6ms78peAlso if you want want sf4 controls to feel like easy mode, get sf2t hd remix. No recovery buffers and smaller input window will force you to be precise.
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Jun 15, 2012 10:01 pm GMT
While I am now playing on a stick, I disagree with people who think the Xbox controller is unusable. I used the analog stick, and I was extremely precise and could do stuff like Ibuki's SJCs and Vipers FFF with probably about 90% precision, and I rarely practiced Viper's stuff. It's all about preference, though it's true that linking combos is harder on pad than on stick (especially since Plinking is almost impossible on a 360 pad).
I would wait until you are sure you like the game and you have the basics down, like blocking, teching throws, using normals effectively, and then decide if you want to invest in a fightstick (or fightpad, but after winning a madcatz fightpad I was quite unimpressed with how it felt).
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Jun 15, 2012 10:03 pm GMT
Playing on a 360 controller is completely possible to do (I do it and many others on this board). That isn't to say though it probably will be easier to play on pad then stick.
Go to the trial mode and work on as many combos as you can for you preferred character. After the first 10, you can skip around and see what combos you can do and how consistently you can do them. Once you learn a few basic combos come back to his board and ask for a fight vs someone. You'll probably lose but that will help you learn.
Good luck
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Jun 15, 2012 10:48 pm GMT
okod, you're the one who called me a scrub when I called you out on advice that would overwhelm and cost him money, so I am not the pretentious one. I'll play you one day this week, but let's just drop the internet argument. Not worth going to 500 over.
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Jun 17, 2012 1:58 am GMT
I've been doing a lot of practicing with ryu, he is the only character I have played since I got this game. I don't put mind numbing long hours into it, but a half hour or an hour a day. My friend is really good at the games and has been playing for a long time, still trumps me every match even with characters he is garbage with. But he says that he has noticed a lot of improvement, I don't see it at all, but I'm sticking with it, if somebody can see a bit of improvement, i must be doing something right.
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Jun 18, 2012 11:39 am GMT
I have been playing SFIV for three years now and I still suck and get bodied all the time, so don't feel bad.
As far as getting better goes, you just have to study the game. Another poster recommended Vesperarcade on youtube. You MUST MUST MUST check out his tutorial. It starts with the basics and gradually moves up to the most advanced concepts. It is far and away the best one-stop resource to learn the game. It's amazing. Watch it. It's amazing. Did I mention it was amazing?
Also if you go to twitch(dot)tv and search out ultrachenTV. James Chen a great video series called "First Attack" that is aimed toward new players. It is godlike.
Shoryuken(dot)com is a great resource, but you may find it hard to find what you are looking for, because you will have to sift through 100-1000 pages of forums.
I would recommend picking Ryu kust to learn the fundamentals of the game and then if you feel so inclined, move onto another character once you have basic things down like blocking, teching, footsies and combos.
It also never hurts to learn how frame data works and how to read and understand it. It basically tells you what you can do without getting killed.
Jun 21, 2012 12:51 pm GMT
A stick helps - A LOT. Becoming good on a pad is possible (there were a handful of people on this board that kicked ass with pad), but stick helps sooooo much - at least for the average person.
Secondly, it takes a LOT of training/practice to become decent at this game. As in it'll take a lot of time in pure training mode to get muscle memory and timing for your tight links down. And THEN a lot of time applying that same training in a live match against a living opponent.
But the number one thing that'll improve your game if you're serious about learning it well is: not getting frustrated when you lose. Because you will lose. A lot. Constantly, in fact. If you use every single match you lose to boost your game, you'll get better much, much faster. e.g. You lost. Scratch your head and pick just one thing you were doing wrong in that match (not blocking overheads, not blocking crossups correctly, missing damage opportunities, whiffing your ultra, jumping around too much, being too aggressive when you could've backed off and baited them, etc.)...then work on the that one aspect for the next several matches.
The second thing to get better is to play someone who can consistently beat you. You don't get better playing people at your level...which is why you should be ok with losing.
Practice and attitude is basically what it took for me to get decent at this game. Don't get mad, don't get frustrated. Try to learn and you'll do fine
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Jun 22, 2012 2:21 pm GMT
GuideToTheDark posted...The pdp fightpad is like 15$ and has the guts and layout of a stick with a weird hybrid thumb-stick. Only problem is that it breaks easily if you drop it, but for 15$, it's not as intimidating an investment for someone just starting to play.
http://tinyurl.com/6ms78pe
Also if you want want sf4 controls to feel like easy mode, get sf2t hd remix. No recovery buffers and smaller input window will force you to be precise.
hd remix? even that game has an assload of input leniency. try doing chicken wings in ST like you're playing HDR
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